> she has been funding hate groups and calling for trans people to be physically attacked She has done neither of these things you claim. Please refrain from spreading misinformation.
> Are you seriously now claiming that TERFs aren't mostly found on the right? Ever heard of a left-wing TERF? Yes of course, and I know several personally. It's a fairly common set of views in the UK. Over here it's not…
You speak of "all these so-called TERFs", but the article you linked, in the very first sentence, qualifies this with "some": "Some trans-exclusionary radical feminists have allied with conservative or far-right groups…
> JK Rowling accused Nigel Farage of being too "woke" No she didn't. What she actually said, in response to someone expressing surprise that Farage supports incarcerating males in the female prison estate, was this:…
Hitler was a vegetarian. This does not imply that vegetarians in general are siding with Nazis. To assert that would be an error of logic. You're making a similarly incorrect fallacy of association between TERFs and…
That's not true. JK Rowling is a good counterexample to your claim, as are the women who brought the FWS case to the UK's Supreme Court (and won), and as are so many other women whose feminist advocacy involves this…
> > The actual divisive issue is whether people who say they are the opposite sex to what they really are should be granted access to spaces that are designated for the sole use of the opposite sex. > And of course that…
What do you see it as? In the UK, where I am from, the counter to the trans ideological position tends to be from a feminist-influenced perspective, emphasising women's sex-based rights.
No, typically this issue is focused around spaces like female-only refuges and safe spaces, locker rooms and changing rooms, prisons, sports competitions, and so on. The divisive point being whether males who say they…
The actual divisive issue is whether people who say they are the opposite sex to what they really are should be granted access to spaces that are designated for the sole use of the opposite sex. This gets relabelled by…
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> In particular, there is no major political party in the UK that supports trans rights, which is devastating to that community there. I believe this is incorrect. No party has said they have any intention of removing…
I disagree with your first and third bullet points, as explained in my previous comment. > If I call you a fucking asshole Well. Aren't neopronouns getting a bit extreme these days.
Oh so it does make a difference now? Well then, consider that it really is not my problem if these males are offended by the simple word "he". Have you heard of the Stroop effect? More to the point, I've no interest…
If it's just a word and makes no difference then there should be no issue with using "he" to refer to any and all individuals of the male sex.
> If you keep repeating this, maybe you'll convince some people I have helped some people understand the full impact of such policy, yes. In my experience, it depends on whether the person I'm talking to has an interest…
> In the sense that the vast majority of all feminists of any kind are on the left? Is there such a thing as a rightwing feminist? JK Rowling? There are some feminists who reject the left-right divide and don't place…
It's not a left versus right issue, not really. Most of the feminists arguing against gender self-id are on the left. This isn't a gotcha either. When the horrific outcomes of males being transferred into women's…
This is also worth reading: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170124 In summary, Conway and others conducted a years-long campaign of harassment against psychology professor J. Michael Bailey. This included…
> she has been funding hate groups and calling for trans people to be physically attacked She has done neither of these things you claim. Please refrain from spreading misinformation.
> Are you seriously now claiming that TERFs aren't mostly found on the right? Ever heard of a left-wing TERF? Yes of course, and I know several personally. It's a fairly common set of views in the UK. Over here it's not…
You speak of "all these so-called TERFs", but the article you linked, in the very first sentence, qualifies this with "some": "Some trans-exclusionary radical feminists have allied with conservative or far-right groups…
> JK Rowling accused Nigel Farage of being too "woke" No she didn't. What she actually said, in response to someone expressing surprise that Farage supports incarcerating males in the female prison estate, was this:…
Hitler was a vegetarian. This does not imply that vegetarians in general are siding with Nazis. To assert that would be an error of logic. You're making a similarly incorrect fallacy of association between TERFs and…
That's not true. JK Rowling is a good counterexample to your claim, as are the women who brought the FWS case to the UK's Supreme Court (and won), and as are so many other women whose feminist advocacy involves this…
> > The actual divisive issue is whether people who say they are the opposite sex to what they really are should be granted access to spaces that are designated for the sole use of the opposite sex. > And of course that…
What do you see it as? In the UK, where I am from, the counter to the trans ideological position tends to be from a feminist-influenced perspective, emphasising women's sex-based rights.
No, typically this issue is focused around spaces like female-only refuges and safe spaces, locker rooms and changing rooms, prisons, sports competitions, and so on. The divisive point being whether males who say they…
The actual divisive issue is whether people who say they are the opposite sex to what they really are should be granted access to spaces that are designated for the sole use of the opposite sex. This gets relabelled by…
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> In particular, there is no major political party in the UK that supports trans rights, which is devastating to that community there. I believe this is incorrect. No party has said they have any intention of removing…
I disagree with your first and third bullet points, as explained in my previous comment. > If I call you a fucking asshole Well. Aren't neopronouns getting a bit extreme these days.
Oh so it does make a difference now? Well then, consider that it really is not my problem if these males are offended by the simple word "he". Have you heard of the Stroop effect? More to the point, I've no interest…
If it's just a word and makes no difference then there should be no issue with using "he" to refer to any and all individuals of the male sex.
> If you keep repeating this, maybe you'll convince some people I have helped some people understand the full impact of such policy, yes. In my experience, it depends on whether the person I'm talking to has an interest…
> In the sense that the vast majority of all feminists of any kind are on the left? Is there such a thing as a rightwing feminist? JK Rowling? There are some feminists who reject the left-right divide and don't place…
It's not a left versus right issue, not really. Most of the feminists arguing against gender self-id are on the left. This isn't a gotcha either. When the horrific outcomes of males being transferred into women's…
This is also worth reading: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170124 In summary, Conway and others conducted a years-long campaign of harassment against psychology professor J. Michael Bailey. This included…
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