Haha, seriously? Suggesting to someone that they should be OK with a treatment that they think should be policy is breaking site guidelines? You are a funny bunch.
Please tell me what your relatives have been up to, I am preparing your tattoo.
That's what I've been wondering ... will they ever try using "we need zero rating to prevent network overload" again if they'll demonstrate now that they don't?
Which doesn't make a Zagnut bar an agent that has power, does it?
That must be the cheapest attempt at shifting the burden of proof I've encountered yet.
> If you think logic is so powerful, why don't you use it to cure alcoholism instead if spending it in HN comments? :) Where did I make the claim that logic could be used to cure alcoholism? > The use of surrender is to…
> The point is, you find a power greater than yourself that you can surrender your will to. So, you think that a candy bar is a power, in any way whatsoever? > A lot of people let them selves get hung up on the higher…
> I doubt anyone earnestly surrenders themselves to a candy bar or fire extinguisher, but I'm certainly not knocking it if it helps someone. No, of course, noone does, that's the point. Possibly, some people somehow…
But THERE IS NO HIGHER POWER INVOLVED. There just isn't. Even if alcoholism is illogical, there still just isn't.
> What you have just done is criticize religious people as a group, and claim that they are abusive. No, I have obviously not. > Criticize ideas and policies; not groups of people. Why? What, in your mind, is the…
So, other people are a Zagnut bar? The point here is that there is no "higher power" involved. It's other people or you yourself, or possibly both, neither of which in any meaningful sense qualifies as a "higher power",…
> That power could be the love of your family, wife/husband, kids, the energy that moves the cosmos, or a fucking Zagnut bar. So, either you actually believe that a Zagnut bar is an agent that can help you out of your…
> But I honestly don't see how anyone wins with that outcome. Then you presumably aren't aware of how abusive religious people can be towards atheists, and that includes in AA groups.
> So going "cold turkey" is not really an option Ending an abusive relationship is always an option.
> I sell my car and the day after tomorrow I have $10,101. That doesn't change your net worth, so it's a nonsensical example. > I'm not saying your wrong, but can you provide a link to a reputable site such as CDC/WHO…
> I guess I've always thought of the two as complementary. In general, sure, but in any particular case? Essentially what I said before: It's not useful to exclude one or the other a priori, but it seems perfectly…
> You build good systems with a combination of technical and legal measures, of course. How is that "of course"? Not excluding one or the other a priori is one thing, but why would it be the obviously right choice to…
Pseudonymity is not anonymity. Your legal name is not really the most interesting aspect of your identity.
> only requiring an internet connection. Oh, so how do you interface with your IP router for this?
You do realize that cash was in use before electricity as a utility was a thing, right? And that food is actually more critical for survival than electricity, right? And that you can exchange cash for food without…
> The main thing I want to see is stronger privacy laws regarding transactions. There's some hope here with the EU. There is some hope here ... that there will be new rules to ignore? Like, how do you think such rules…
The question is: Can you interoperate without using the proprietary app? Facebook also builds on the internet and the web, but you can not interoperate with Facebook without becoming a Facebook user. And "interoperate"…
> There is no realistic way to hijack DSL connections en-masse So, exactly what people always say exactly up to the point where someone demonstrates the exploit chain? > and an attacker skilled enough to compromise an…
> Couple of points: Most of those vectors would represent extreme levels of paranoia for the average home user. That's not really a useful measure, though, because this can be said about every single vulnerability used…
> Perhaps you could expand on the threat model you're talking about where you, as a remote attacker, can somehow get a packet with an RFC1918 dest IP sent to the WAN port of your intended victims home router. The threat…
Haha, seriously? Suggesting to someone that they should be OK with a treatment that they think should be policy is breaking site guidelines? You are a funny bunch.
Please tell me what your relatives have been up to, I am preparing your tattoo.
That's what I've been wondering ... will they ever try using "we need zero rating to prevent network overload" again if they'll demonstrate now that they don't?
Which doesn't make a Zagnut bar an agent that has power, does it?
That must be the cheapest attempt at shifting the burden of proof I've encountered yet.
> If you think logic is so powerful, why don't you use it to cure alcoholism instead if spending it in HN comments? :) Where did I make the claim that logic could be used to cure alcoholism? > The use of surrender is to…
> The point is, you find a power greater than yourself that you can surrender your will to. So, you think that a candy bar is a power, in any way whatsoever? > A lot of people let them selves get hung up on the higher…
> I doubt anyone earnestly surrenders themselves to a candy bar or fire extinguisher, but I'm certainly not knocking it if it helps someone. No, of course, noone does, that's the point. Possibly, some people somehow…
But THERE IS NO HIGHER POWER INVOLVED. There just isn't. Even if alcoholism is illogical, there still just isn't.
> What you have just done is criticize religious people as a group, and claim that they are abusive. No, I have obviously not. > Criticize ideas and policies; not groups of people. Why? What, in your mind, is the…
So, other people are a Zagnut bar? The point here is that there is no "higher power" involved. It's other people or you yourself, or possibly both, neither of which in any meaningful sense qualifies as a "higher power",…
> That power could be the love of your family, wife/husband, kids, the energy that moves the cosmos, or a fucking Zagnut bar. So, either you actually believe that a Zagnut bar is an agent that can help you out of your…
> But I honestly don't see how anyone wins with that outcome. Then you presumably aren't aware of how abusive religious people can be towards atheists, and that includes in AA groups.
> So going "cold turkey" is not really an option Ending an abusive relationship is always an option.
> I sell my car and the day after tomorrow I have $10,101. That doesn't change your net worth, so it's a nonsensical example. > I'm not saying your wrong, but can you provide a link to a reputable site such as CDC/WHO…
> I guess I've always thought of the two as complementary. In general, sure, but in any particular case? Essentially what I said before: It's not useful to exclude one or the other a priori, but it seems perfectly…
> You build good systems with a combination of technical and legal measures, of course. How is that "of course"? Not excluding one or the other a priori is one thing, but why would it be the obviously right choice to…
Pseudonymity is not anonymity. Your legal name is not really the most interesting aspect of your identity.
> only requiring an internet connection. Oh, so how do you interface with your IP router for this?
You do realize that cash was in use before electricity as a utility was a thing, right? And that food is actually more critical for survival than electricity, right? And that you can exchange cash for food without…
> The main thing I want to see is stronger privacy laws regarding transactions. There's some hope here with the EU. There is some hope here ... that there will be new rules to ignore? Like, how do you think such rules…
The question is: Can you interoperate without using the proprietary app? Facebook also builds on the internet and the web, but you can not interoperate with Facebook without becoming a Facebook user. And "interoperate"…
> There is no realistic way to hijack DSL connections en-masse So, exactly what people always say exactly up to the point where someone demonstrates the exploit chain? > and an attacker skilled enough to compromise an…
> Couple of points: Most of those vectors would represent extreme levels of paranoia for the average home user. That's not really a useful measure, though, because this can be said about every single vulnerability used…
> Perhaps you could expand on the threat model you're talking about where you, as a remote attacker, can somehow get a packet with an RFC1918 dest IP sent to the WAN port of your intended victims home router. The threat…