> go-ipfs with a few pinned files taking more than 5GB Yeah, I don't understand the hype around IPFS when it performs so badly. After reporting the issue and having a conversation with the devs I had an impression that…
> This problem doesn't exist for JSON, because pretty much every language directly supports arrays, objects/maps and primitives No, JSON will not map directly to a language with advanced type system (with tuples,…
> In my experience, there's virtually no overlap between the two groups, and therefore no fragmentation Right, so there are two groups of developers working on different IM protocols. If this is not fragmentation (of…
Doing the same for XMPP: http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-cir.html Let's compete.
> it'll need institutional buy-in from corporations and existing tech companies. Hope there is a plan for that type of out-reach. "Failing to plan is planning to fail". I don't see why would corporations and existing…
And admins will update their deployments instantly? Because of monolithic core? Interesting...
> You can see our governance model at https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/matthew/msc177.... and see that we do everything we can to ensure that the wider community can contribute to the spec and steer it in…
> Rather than burning all this energy spreading FUD about Matrix, perhaps it might be better spent improving XMPP? :/ Yeah, didn't I say above about such kind of arguments?
> is still a half-locked platform... but that is still not a standards body Exactly. That's why I always stress the importance of the IETF. The whole point of the IETF is that you cooperate with people, deal with…
> I'm not sure about that. If the main matrix server disappeared today that'd be problematic This ^^ Currently a large amount of users (I'm told around a half, but I'm not sure) have matrix.org as their home server. So…
> It's quite subjective, but my view is Matrix is what XMPP would like if it was written today. That's indeed a subjective view. > The main advantages are it is using JSON instead of XML, and HTTP instead of custom…
> Obviously XSF contributed XMPP to the IETF after 10 years or so The first RFC was approved in 2004, after 5 years of XMPP development. The last RFC from XMPP WG is from 2015. > perhaps we'll end up contributing Matrix…
> i'd argue that the Matrix.org Foundation is just as 'recognized' as the XMPP Standards Foundation :) Recognized by whom? The XSF has standardized their core in IETF. Is there something similar for Matrix.org…
> Simply that quotas work and encouragement doesn't I wonder what other outcome one might expect from quotas.
And it consumed 8.7Gb :) I wonder if the editor itself is of the same quality :/
So I tried to install it and got fancy error: $ ./install.tcl ...skipped... Copying data to lib/tke/data... done. Copying doc to lib/tke/doc... done. Copying lib to lib/tke/lib... error! error copying "lib" to…
ENUM anyone?
Well, dunno, in my opinion both are equally obscure. I personally don't like "dot notation" and that's one of the reason I don't like Rust. The main problem I see with dot notation is the Pigeon hole problem: why…
> From my perspective it’s one of the very few general purpose languages (along with erlang) Maybe I'm missing something, but since when Erlang is a general purpose language? Erlang was designed for a quite narrow niche…
> age of JSON Yeah, modern and shiny JSON. IT is now a subdivision of the fashion industry. Suck it up ;)
> go-ipfs with a few pinned files taking more than 5GB Yeah, I don't understand the hype around IPFS when it performs so badly. After reporting the issue and having a conversation with the devs I had an impression that…
> This problem doesn't exist for JSON, because pretty much every language directly supports arrays, objects/maps and primitives No, JSON will not map directly to a language with advanced type system (with tuples,…
> In my experience, there's virtually no overlap between the two groups, and therefore no fragmentation Right, so there are two groups of developers working on different IM protocols. If this is not fragmentation (of…
Doing the same for XMPP: http://upload.zinid.ru/xep-eax-cir.html Let's compete.
> it'll need institutional buy-in from corporations and existing tech companies. Hope there is a plan for that type of out-reach. "Failing to plan is planning to fail". I don't see why would corporations and existing…
And admins will update their deployments instantly? Because of monolithic core? Interesting...
> You can see our governance model at https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-doc/blob/matthew/msc177.... and see that we do everything we can to ensure that the wider community can contribute to the spec and steer it in…
> Rather than burning all this energy spreading FUD about Matrix, perhaps it might be better spent improving XMPP? :/ Yeah, didn't I say above about such kind of arguments?
> is still a half-locked platform... but that is still not a standards body Exactly. That's why I always stress the importance of the IETF. The whole point of the IETF is that you cooperate with people, deal with…
> I'm not sure about that. If the main matrix server disappeared today that'd be problematic This ^^ Currently a large amount of users (I'm told around a half, but I'm not sure) have matrix.org as their home server. So…
> It's quite subjective, but my view is Matrix is what XMPP would like if it was written today. That's indeed a subjective view. > The main advantages are it is using JSON instead of XML, and HTTP instead of custom…
> Obviously XSF contributed XMPP to the IETF after 10 years or so The first RFC was approved in 2004, after 5 years of XMPP development. The last RFC from XMPP WG is from 2015. > perhaps we'll end up contributing Matrix…
> i'd argue that the Matrix.org Foundation is just as 'recognized' as the XMPP Standards Foundation :) Recognized by whom? The XSF has standardized their core in IETF. Is there something similar for Matrix.org…
> Simply that quotas work and encouragement doesn't I wonder what other outcome one might expect from quotas.
And it consumed 8.7Gb :) I wonder if the editor itself is of the same quality :/
So I tried to install it and got fancy error: $ ./install.tcl ...skipped... Copying data to lib/tke/data... done. Copying doc to lib/tke/doc... done. Copying lib to lib/tke/lib... error! error copying "lib" to…
ENUM anyone?
Well, dunno, in my opinion both are equally obscure. I personally don't like "dot notation" and that's one of the reason I don't like Rust. The main problem I see with dot notation is the Pigeon hole problem: why…
> From my perspective it’s one of the very few general purpose languages (along with erlang) Maybe I'm missing something, but since when Erlang is a general purpose language? Erlang was designed for a quite narrow niche…
> age of JSON Yeah, modern and shiny JSON. IT is now a subdivision of the fashion industry. Suck it up ;)