The submitted title was "Apple Annonce 1000 New Irish Jobs", but it shouldn't have been editorialized in the first place, so we've changed it to the article title.
"Apple Announces" (as in the original arrtical title) is correct since Apple, the company, is a singular entity (and would still be even if it was called "Apples").
"John announces", "the boys announce".
"Annonce", as in the current submission title, is doubly incorrect.
Depends on British English or American English. British English generally considers companies to be collections of people e.g. ‘Apple announce that’ in the same manner as a sports team e.g. ‘Arsenal are winning’.
You're right - it seems there is a little more leeway here. "Annonce" (the typo) was what the parent comment correctly pulled up, but the original form of the verb should have been maintained in any case.
I think this is a great move to fight the lack of efficacy of the H1B visa program[1]. If Apple can't bring everyone they'd like to America, the only obvious option is to employ more people in Europe. Unfortunately, due to how the H1B lottery, this is what big tech companies have to start doing - expanding their offices in Europe. This way they might even get some of the people they want with the L1 visa.
However, it's a shame that the H1B lottery is as it is, because startups have a really hard time hiring people. It would help startups to grow if it were easier to hire people from outside the US. As an European programmer trying to go to the US, I really hope that the US government gets rid of the lottery system.
Yeah, it's hard for the serious players to get their needed H1B when "consultancy companies" clogs the system by hiring warm bodies that barely know how to write a Hello World in Java (but hey they can be allocated to "corporate projects")
But it doesn't look like they'll be employing any software developers ('manufacturing, customer care, finance and global supply chain management'). I'm not sure many customer care people would normally come over on an H1B anyway.
I really wish more companies would follow suit (and not only in Ireland), including design and development roles in the equation.
Behemots like Apple have the money and infrastructure to make it irrelevant where offices are located, and in Europe (even considering that Europe is not a monolithic entity) there is a potential pool of talent larger than the US.
Where I live (Madrid) salaries for engineering jobs are a fraction of what they are in US, every multinational has a presence here, but most local jobs are sales or retail.
Apple very much believes in the importance of face to face communication for the most part so money/infrastructure is irrelevant. I am sure the whole secrecy aspect of their business is pretty important as well. The way Apple works to take advantage of European developers is through acquisitions where they still largely keep the teams in tact.
Interestingly I know a lot of descendants of the Irish Diaspora are starting to take interest in returning work to Ireland. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-north-west-ireland-our-ga... is just one example, there's more when you look at things like the Irish American Business Chamber & Network ( http://iabcn.org/ ). Curious to see what happens over my lifetime.
This has absolutely nothing to do with H1B visas. Cork, Ireland is the EMEA headquarters and where the call centre, finance and logistics are managed. No engineering work is done there.
Developers however are spread all over the place (some in Stockley Park/Covent Court, London, Paris etc) and some of their acquisitions never moved e.g. Cambridge. That said even these developers are on the periphery and mostly doing localisation type engineering e.g. supporting the various EMEA specific payment/shipping methods for the Apple Online Store.
If you want to work on core iOS, OSX, iPhone, iPad etc then you still need to be in Cupertino.
Why is it any harder for startups to hire people from within the US? The US is big and has A LOT of tech talent within its borders, I can imagine the level of talent being sufficient for nearly every "startup."
Erm, it's been a while since I worked there, but Apple's Cork facilities isn't where innovation is happening. Assembly, distribution and customer support.
It's the equivalent of an Amazon warehouse in that regard...
Doesn't Apple maintain their incorporation in Ireland so that they don't have to pay taxes? I remember a year or two back that Ireland began questioning Apple's tax status.
I wonder if Apple agreed to hire workers in Ireland in exchange for keeping their tax status in Ireland.
My understanding is that the foreign entity that acts as the haven has to be a legitimate business entity. This hiring binge aligns well with keeping that facade up.
Obviously Apple picked Ireland for tax reasons, but 5,000 employees is a remarkably thick facade. Compare that to 16,000 people in Cupertino — I'm pretty sure that makes Ireland Apple's largest pool of office employees outside of their HQ.
Ireland isn't questioning Apple. The US government were IIRC. The Irish political establishment & electorate just care about jobs.
There's an election in Ireland in a few months. After the property bubble burst, and the economy tanked, the parties currently in government love to claim any good signs for the economy. 1,000 jobs! Do you know how many votes that'll be? Who cares about taxes, the people want jobs.
to be fair, you can't really say that something that has been called 'illegal tax avoidance' is not illegal, unless you are bringing a counter argument. The evidence is in the very same word.
Since 1980? That seems suspect considering incorporation in 77' and public in 80'. I am surprised they would have a corporate presence in Ireland so soon.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 98.4 ms ] thread"John announces", "the boys announce".
"Annonce", as in the current submission title, is doubly incorrect.
However, it's a shame that the H1B lottery is as it is, because startups have a really hard time hiring people. It would help startups to grow if it were easier to hire people from outside the US. As an European programmer trying to go to the US, I really hope that the US government gets rid of the lottery system.
[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10539100
Additionally I'm not even sure if there is much dev work going on in their Cork plant? Would love to hear from someone in the know :)
But it isn't your glamorous Apple Car/Apple Watch/R&D development.
Behemots like Apple have the money and infrastructure to make it irrelevant where offices are located, and in Europe (even considering that Europe is not a monolithic entity) there is a potential pool of talent larger than the US.
Where I live (Madrid) salaries for engineering jobs are a fraction of what they are in US, every multinational has a presence here, but most local jobs are sales or retail.
Developers however are spread all over the place (some in Stockley Park/Covent Court, London, Paris etc) and some of their acquisitions never moved e.g. Cambridge. That said even these developers are on the periphery and mostly doing localisation type engineering e.g. supporting the various EMEA specific payment/shipping methods for the Apple Online Store.
If you want to work on core iOS, OSX, iPhone, iPad etc then you still need to be in Cupertino.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10539100
Despite what the 'Valley evangelists' will say(e.g., Thiel, Andreessen,...), innovation can happen anywhere in the world.
(I sort of agree with you, BTW, but I don't think this is the best example).
It's the equivalent of an Amazon warehouse in that regard...
I wonder if Apple agreed to hire workers in Ireland in exchange for keeping their tax status in Ireland.
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/82805/20150909/apples-aust...
There's an election in Ireland in a few months. After the property bubble burst, and the economy tanked, the parties currently in government love to claim any good signs for the economy. 1,000 jobs! Do you know how many votes that'll be? Who cares about taxes, the people want jobs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_Irish_arrangement
Also see "Dutch sandwich".
[1] http://uk.businessinsider.com/apple-defends-irish-tax-arrang...
[2] http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/29/ireland-defends...
Does any know more about Apples investment in energy as mentioned in this?