Ask HN: How do you keep track of your creative thoughts?

325 points by jianzong ↗ HN
Hi Hackernews, I am a developer with lots of random creative thoughts, especially when I am in shower or after a few shots of caffeine. I have yet to find a perfect solution to keep track of my random thoughts. Here are a few things that I've tried at least for a few months:

1. Physical notebook: still using, but some times my notebook is in my backpack/left at home/in office 2. Evernote alike: never works for me. I hate the constant changing features/UI and the overhead of simply opening it 3. (My pick) use instant IM to send messages to myself: the IM tool really doesn't matter. It could be mail app, facebook messenger, slack. Laptop and phone syncing is free and always reliable.

I know these are my throw away thoughts. I am wondering whether there are some amazingly good solutions that I didn't know of. Otherwise I am planning to create one for myself.

Thanks!

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Notes app (native to iOS & OS X)
I went all in with Notes.app, sounded so appealing with much more potential features unlocked on iPad Pro with a pen, as well as iCloud web accessibility.

Then it failed syncing.

Then I noticed search doesn't work over note titles.

Then it prevented me from having more than 100 attached links (yes, links, not files) per note. Hard-coded.

Then it started crawling performance-wise. Slow startup, slow scroll.

Currently, I'm at file level when on desktop, and on paper when not. I'm not particulary happy with this either, but at least I'm aware of limitations at all times.

Blame me on not being a good mac-tizen. But a few years ago one day Notes.app somehow failed to sync and all my notes are gone. That day is the day I chose not to believe anything that "just works".

(I didn't bother to figure out what goes wrong. These notes are throw aways anyway)

Dynalist
It's fine but too expensive. I moved over to Notion.so recently
It's free - only a few features you need to pay for. I get along fine without them
I need good support for images and that's under the paywall
How is Notion for solo users? I am a Dynalist user by recommendation on Tildes and love it, but I saw Notion recommended a few times. It seems like more of a team-oriented product though.
I use Dynalist as well and I really enjoy it. I've been using it for about 2 years now.
I use Dynalist for everything these days - inbox, task, planning, notes, long-term storage of important information. So much, that I'm actually worried that I do not have full control over my data (I have backups at least, which is nice).
+1 for Dynalist! I have always struggled with the balance between structure (e.g. trello boards, spreadsheets, ...) and keeping enough freedom to easily jot down new stuff and discarding or expanding it as I go (the other end of the spectrum would be one large TXT file i suppose).

I came across Dynalist through workflowy and was instantly hooked as you don't feel bad for just throwing something in and not following it any further, while also having the option of structuring your information really neatly, throwing in tasks, going back and finding earlier notes, etc.

For me it works for almost everything from drafting outlines for writing through task management, keeping track of research, study notes for books & courses, etc.

Constantly experimenting with different systems, both analog and digital, but never found one that clicked.

Evernote was good, but I felt like my notes went in and died. A graveyard of creative thoughts.

Lately, I’ve been spending more time trying to figure out how to revisit and make use of my creative thoughts captured in note form.

> I felt like my notes went in and died. A graveyard of creative thoughts.

I use trello for that reason, with different boards for different categories of ideas (fiction, startup/project ideas, gaming, etc)

Trello’s UI always feels very inviting to look back and restructure, reconsider etc.

Instead of feeling like you are just amassing a pile of trash, it feels like slowly building up and structuring my own personal encyclopedia of ideas and thoughts. A bit closer to the analog feeling of a scrap book.

Commonplace notebook in emacs, several moleskine notebooks and a digital voice recorder.
Which voice recorder do you use if you don't mind sharing?
I add to OmniFocus inbox and then eventually move into a sometime/maybe - ideas project
When I was using an iPhone & mac as my primary tools I had siri create reminders "write a tool which does.." which were synced to caldav & regulary auto-imported into my GTD inbox (omnifocus).

I really liked this solution since it was reliable. The synced entries were deleted from my phone automatically so I did not have to worry about an endless list of tasks on my phone.

Using Siri is really neat, you don't even have to unlock your phone I assume. :)
Notes app for quick hits.

An insane collection of project/notes/ideas/code folders on iCloud for permanence.

Same as my shopping list, use IFTTT to add a Trello card using Google Assistant or similar.

It's the fastest way to get those thoughts stored, and I always have my phone on me these days.

Do you need to somehow maintain IFTTT once in a while? (Even if it is once a year)
hey lordnacho, how to contact you directly?
Physical notebooks started working for me when I started using them for daily planning, which I did by buying a silly $5 stamp of off AliExpress: https://medium.com/@kristiandupont/high-resolution-planning-...

On NYE I went through my books of 2018 and it was a great experience -- both reiterating all the things I've actually accomplished and refreshing various thoughts and ideas that I had stored and sort of let go. https://www.instagram.com/p/BsDWesbnkDI/

+1 for physical notebooks. I still do this. I still make notes on my laptop but most everything is still on paper!

It gives me something to show my kids someday.

Yes, for me physical notebooks are the best solution as well. A notebook and a pen goes everywhere with me (e.g. I don't leave it in the office). It's not that inconvenient. No battery to keep charged, worrying about breaking the screen, etc.

For the rare occasions I don't happen to have it at hand, it's easy to scavenge a scrap of paper to scribble things down and then later glue into the notebook.

I'm sure this won't be the case for everyone but something about being on the computer all the time, using it for official work tasks and so many personal mundane tasks seems to take away from my seriousness and memory retention when I'm trying to do creative organization outside of work time (since work stuff is by nature more structured and stratified into departments and projects it sorta helps to organize itself before I have to really put thought into it).

That's where I find using a physical notebook better.

Sometime I do is write everything out in pencil first and then I make sure to re-read it. That gives me a chance to make quick changes / fixes and then more importantly it allows me to go back with a pen when I'm done to write over / highlight headings, keywords, key snippets, and key bullet points while also being able to add things like stars next to important items, arrows to connected items, and other things that I possibly forgot to jot down or couldn't finish once I have the clarity of the entire ordeal's organization jotted down in one place.

This helps me commit things to memory much better and something about having a hand written hard copy feels like I actually did some "official work" on a side project / personal organization / preparation project.

Same. When at a computer, I keep it all in a single markdown file. Easy to find, edit, search, etc.
Just dropped everything and bought that stamp! I'm an artist so a sketchbook is just part of the job, but I have tried and failed for years to keep a proper planner. I like this, though, it's so easy and less overwhelming.
I use vimwiki to keep notes. It's not synced out of the box, but as it's just a directory with text files, you could make it so. If I'm not with my laptop, I just make a note in Google Keep.
Thanks, I use vimwiki for a while a year ago as well. I think it is more suitable for idea organizing. Later I replaced it with a private github repo using issues/wiki/projects.
I email myself and capture in emacs org-mode.

I have an email address that is bound to AWS SES. SES listens for incoming emails and writes them to an S3 bucket. I then have a lambda hook which listens for writes to this bucket and processes the email content. This usually means writing an emacs org-mode record on dropbox. Which is then added to my emacs agenda.

I can't tell whether this is serious or you are joking. Either way that's unusual...
Fairly normal setup. I have something similar on my own server i.e. not AWS.
I used IFTTT for email->Dropbox for some time. Ultimately, I didn't leave much notes for myself this way, as I'm almost always close to a computer with Emacs accessible locally or remotely. For the rare case I use Orgzly on my phone, or Google Keep in a pinch.
That sounds really complicated. Wouldn't you just use something like Syncthing to synchronize your org mode files across devices? I use Orgzly and Syncthing in my phone and it's good enough.

If you use it for general email stuff, just have a Cron job pulling your email down and append new stuff to a file that gets synchronized.

I don't really get why AWS, S3, or lambda are involved, unless you just wanted to see if you could do it.

I definitely used it as an exercise to learn lambda. I don't have an android phone for orgzly and at the time of creation, there weren't any solid iPhone org-mode apps.

I use org-brain on the backend and the lambda function does some processing to automatically categorize and such.

I just e-mail myself, make sure to include “idea” or “business idea” or “game idea” or whatever in the subject line, respond to the email chain if i want to iterate, and periodically go back through the search results of emails I’ve sent myself.
I use org-mode with a keybase git repo. Works on termux too!
I use a combination of a physical notebook for graphical stuff and elaborating things, Google Keep for any kind of random thoughts and ideas, and actually use the dm-yourself thing for collecting/bookmarking links I wanna revisit.
I tried Google keep for a while (a few months I think). But later I find dm-yourself is faster than Google keep so I abandon using.

I think the law of least effort applied to me.

I use Zim wiki: http://zim-wiki.org/

I organize everything in it, and I have also a daily journal in zim, it is synchronized with syncthing https://syncthing.net/ on all my computers and my phone.

When I have something quick to add and don't have access to my computer, I send to myself a message and slack, or on whatsapp and I add it later to my notes

I host my own DokuWiki on DigitalOcean, keep everything there under Certbot SSL and Google Authenticator 2FA login. DokuWiki also works great on mobile. Also have paper/analog notebooks with me at all times.
I've been hosting my own wiki based on Use Mod Wiki since the late 90's. I'm still using it everyday.
Shower thoughts that may amount to something is first repeated out loud. Only when i vocalize them they can stay in memory long enough to be recorded by any means necessary.

I send myself emails, record audio, then in the end everything is converted to .txt file on structured dropbox folders.

How do I keep track of my creative thoughts? Very easy! I don't have one. :)
I have creative thoughts, just don't go through the effort of writing them down ...
I use owncloud notes. It has desktop, web and phone clients. It is mostly just a sync facility but I have found it very useful, especially as the notes as kept as text files
I make lists and jot notes in Zim. Additionally, if I need to actually organize my thoughts I use a freemium mind-mapping software on my phone called Simple Mind.

When I went to school for art (until I switched), I learnd that artists and writers have long used physical notebooks, but that you can't just use them as a convenience: you have to actually put effort into ensuring you put something in it each day whether you're feeling creative or not. And you have to go back and read it to critically evaluate what you're doing. It has to be a process, not just a reminder.

For me, the combination of iA writer and iCloud works really well. Desktop or mobile—both syncs without problems. If idea is compelling enough, I might later write it down as a blog post and remove original writing from my computer.

I also keep a notebook next to my bed, because for me sometimes good ideas emerge when everything quiets down. I transfer any writings to a digital format while I'm drinking coffee in the morning.

My Google Keep is filled with all sorts of unusual ramblings.

Nothing particularly special about Keep itself, but I find having a mobile app handy as I get to sleep easier if I simply grab my phone off the beside table and jot down notes. Otherwise I lay awake worrying I'll forget in the morning.

A file called ideas.txt.

In retrospect I should have put it under version control; nearly a decade's worth of ideas and no clue when most were thought up.

Ideas for my active project/startup are organized in a relatively more disciplined fashion and consist of multiple text files under version control.

Evernote has been working ok for me. I organize things under lots of different notebooks and tags, and the search feature makes it easy to find things. Sometimes I will write something in a Google Doc.
Wunderlist is where I landed 5 years ago after many failed alternatives. I like that it’s primary interface is a simple entry box with an add button. I can review my ideas periodically and add more detail. It’s very cross platform and very simple; and in the years I’ve used it the app hasn’t experienced the typical feature bloat.
I also use Wunderlist, after trying many of the other tools described on this page - text docs, paper notebooks, audio files, etc.

I think the cross-platform support is crucial, which is why I was dismayed to learn that Microsoft acquired the parent company. I don't want to be tied into a Microsoft account to use Wunderlist, or see second-rate versions of the tool become the norm for the non-Windows platforms. Strangely, Wunderlist has not been shut down nor have people been forced to migrate (yet) even though this was announced a few years back.

I still use paper notebooks from time to time, especially when I am listening to someone talking or I need to digram something out.

I use Notion.so. I have a page where I put all my thoughts no matter what they may be. Then I review it weekly to see what can be tackled next.

Unfortunately, Notion does not have a browser extension yet so you always have to open the website or app to jot down something, but I hope this will come soon.

If you want to add notes without opening an app, you can try Google Keep. It has a Chrome extension that works really well.

I put all my bigger ideas in public on Trello with hopes that someone finds the board and makes any of the ideas for me so I don’t have to.

https://trello.com/b/alB1ryRP

All other smaller thoughts and ideas usually get written into atelegram’s saved messages and then get processed on mac later.