Ask HN: Does reading about climate change give you anxiety or depression?
I’ve always suffered a bit from existential dread, and I feel like the amplification of climate change related news over the last year has really compounded it for me. Does anyone else experience the same issue? How do you manage it?
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 69.4 ms ] threadAt root I believe that we are all slowly killing ourselves and that likely in my lifetime we will reach a tipping point. Humans may continue for another 5-6 generations but then we will become extinct too. Culture as we know it will die, and all of the achievements of human mind and all of the natural splendor of our world will disappear into the cold void of space.
Everything seems futile. Our society is so geared towards consumption and pollution, how can we possibly reverse course? Life is still beautiful, and worth living, and worth fighting for, but all signs point to us being screwed.
How do you cope?
I have enough micro-environmental stresses to keep me perpetually at a med/high level of depression at all times.
When I'm exceptionally depressed (maybe 2 times per week), I actively look forward to my own death and couldn't care less about the environment.
I know that sounds heartless, but it's the truth. Miserable people often don't care about their own life let alone the life of 8 billion unknown people. A strategy to improve the general public's opinion on climate change might be to spike the water supply with Prozac.
Imagine being one of those preoccupied with the collapse of white population worldwide and western civilization in general. Now, those guys really have a reason to be depressed, and if they look for mental health's help, most therapists would probably refer them to the police. If they talk about it, banks will ban them and so will web hosts and such stuff. They're marked and targeted, with harassment and violence, by the police and leftists thugs.
As long as you have a big community to support you, you can't complain that much, even if the world is gonna collapse. Because maybe humanity kinda deserves it.
What fucking year is this again?
Edit: You know what? This pissed me off, so I'm going to go ahead and point out that equal rights - not just on the books but in practice - is still nowhere near the status quo. If that were the case, we wouldn't have had our first black president be notable - rather we would see a list of former presidents representative of the actual population (e.g. 50% women, 12% Black, etc). We also wouldn't have racial disparities in income, housing, employment, arrest rates, nor health outcomes. We wouldn't currently have concentration camps for Latino immigrants.
You are feeling threatened because people from other races are starting to be treated as your equal. This is a problem with you, and with members of the population who refuse to see people with more melanin in their outter-most layer of skin as human beings. We are all a part of this nation, including my Arab, Muslim self, and it's about damn time that you respected that.
Calling out your bullshit is not shouting abuse at you, and it's definitely not condoning it. And, for the record, people shout "Fuck Muslims" and similar sentiments all the time. With much greater frequency. Often right to my face.
So, welcome to the club buddy!
Edit: Also, this gem: "shouting 'fuck white people!' might get you a job"? This isn't Stormfront, be coherent.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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Just don't get too apathetic, there are things you can do to help like voting and creating less waste.
If we don't care, why anxious?
If we do care, having clear mind helps with thinking how we should act to deter the incoming disaster.
What makes us anxious more than we should is the lack of number. People say there's an impending doom, but we don't know how severe it is.
We need numbers over the course of time to keep monitor.
Bloomberg terminal is $24K/yr. I use that as a baseline for the market value of somewhat accurate/timely information--they don't give it away! Contrast with newspapers, which are sold primarily at cost of distribution, "5 free article" news websites which are more PR-organ than journalism, and cable news--which is virtually given away to the point of ubiquity (restaurants, salons, dr's offices, etc).
This whole "you are the product" biz is nothing new. Media serves its advertisers. They have to keep us exposed to the ads, and crises are effective at that--keeping us all under a sort of siege mentality--where we check compulsively as if life and limb were at stake. Actual knowledge or constructive insight will never be offered. That would diminish the effect. Instead, they offer a round-table of whores and buffoons (all billed as world-class experts, of course) to crank the despair up to 11.
To go to the shrink and take the pills is to succumb to both stages of the scam. Before going there, first try disengaging from media. Grab a book off archive.org instead--preferably, an old one.
Sounds to me like some sort of hot hand fallacy with the chips being billions of lives. Problem is coming too fast, with too much at stake, for the powers that be to still act as if we have all the time in the world to do something about it. But people still believing there is a way to reverse course may keep this twisted musical chairs we are playing, going for a little bit longer.
Will there be humans still around? Maybe, chances are there will be descendants of ones who could and did hoard material, but everyone else? Not so sure on that front.
But hey, all the fascination with total societal collapse coming via zombies. super villains, or the like may have some weirdos actually pining for that. Lets see what happens when the death cults start popping up.
[0] http://lifeworth.com/deepadaptation.pdf
I don't know why, I've never really shared the concerns that our species must go on, just like how some people believe if they don't have children and their bloodline ends there, it's a terrible thing, but for me if that's the case then that's the case.
I honestly feel like maybe it's causing more harm to put people in anxiety and depression, and to tell our kids that we're all gonna die when they're just getting to know the world.
But that's just me /shrug
I'm pretty much desensitized and take with a grain of salt almost anything the news pushes; after a while, you see that the same stories get trotted out year after year, almost like clockwork, on a wide array of topics, and it's the same thing, with nothing ever actually changing. The stories wear different clothing, but it's always the same; the end is nigh, repent o ye sinner, believe and ye shall be saved, and reborn again pure. If I had a fit about everything that the newspaper or the TV anchors try to work up a dudgeon about, I'd be a constant nervous shaking wreck. So I just go about my business and ignore the panic of the day.