I think the equity a startup is offering me is very low. Am I crazy?
Here's the story. Company A is a new startup with one person. This guy has already invested a considerable amount of his personal money (more than a million) to purchase the domain name and a few other assets from an old business.
He has great business/sales/management knowledge and is someone I've known for years, but has no technical background. I'm a developer, and he wants me join as a technical co-founder. There's a business plan, but no prototype yet.
I was offered 2% equity (vesting over four years) and a fair salary (less than I made at my last job) plus benefits to join this company.
I thought the equity seemed quite low for being a technical co-founder, even though the sole founder has already invested quite a bit. There's also less risk in the sense that he has the money to pay me a salary.
What do you all think about the equity being offered, given this situation?
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[ 4.7 ms ] story [ 35.2 ms ] threadI would only take the job if that is what you're looking for, and if you don't mind leaving with the title 'Lead Developer' rather than 'Co-Founder'.
A co-founder is someone that is carrying a good sized chunk of the risk and that is likely not going to be receiving a market rate salary for a long time. A co-founder would see the stock as their compensation and since it's risky stock there would be more of it.
I can't say much about the risk here, there is not enough info in your post to take a stab at that but unless the guy is very wealthy he must have thought through the risks himself and your risk is limited to a small fraction of what you'll make over those four years in salary.
If it's less than what you made at your last job then maybe you should shop around a bit and see what your real market value is, that will give you an idea of the 'hidden cost' here, which in turn will give you an idea how much that 2% should be worth to make this worth your while.
2% is not much at face value, but if this is the next Oracle or google it might still be worth your time. More info->better advice.
I think a somewhat plausible best case would be a $50 million exit and 2% would be a million dollars.
Here is a decent article... seems consistent with what people tell me... http://www.tonywright.com/2008/a-newbies-guide-to-startup-co...
It's also the only domain of those four that had significant inherent value. They could have easily resold Mint.com for a profit. Buying it early gave them the benefits of the great domain and lowered the price they paid. I think what Mint did was brilliant.
The only reason I can think of not to buy a $1M asset for $1M is if it eats into your runway. If it doesn't then you're better off if you can.
I require 10% preferred with up-to an additional 10% common in addition to a monthly salary (we are still negotiating the salary)
If I were you, I wouldnt take anything less than 10%
Here is what you should think about:
Assuming that you will need to go get a series A from VC if your venture gets momentum; you're really talking about splitting up 40% of the company. So at max - your share would be ~20%
As he is fronting the money - and may not need VC, therefore keeping the 60-80% yet your founding and BUILDING the thing, upto 20% is perfectly reasonable and fair.
I would ask for a mix of common and preferred - with a set min of preferred that you want.
[edit]The domain name may not even be a company asset, and with the kind of control the founder has, even if it is, he is free to sell it to himself for a nominal price making your stock worth less.
If you're being offered 2% on those terms then I'd rather do my own thing, but thats just me.
You start a company with him, and have an outside investor give you $1 million. That's a large angel/small VC round. Say it's worth 30% of the company. Would you split that remaining 70% at 68/2 with the guy if he hadn't put any money in?
More importantly, it sounds as if he already considers you an employee (as opposed to a founder). If you want to be a co-founder, this wont end well.