That's a good idea. It's currently on the box I run my blog off so shouldn't be costing my anything at all (given I am paying for the blog hosting anyway) but it would be interesting to try.
This is super cool and potentially really useful (and thanks for building it!)
One q - I can't seem to click through to a specific date? Is this me missing something or you not making it available? Would seem the next obvious interaction?
Thanks, yeah this functionality doesn't exist at the moment (aggregation happens server side so the actual stories aren't available client side). You can however get the full data for a trend from the API endpoint (the front end doesn't use this endpoint but I added it since it's useful to check the actual data). Just replace 'rust' at the end with your search term: http://eliot-jones.com:5690/api/results/rust
Thanks, yeah I agree, the percent view smooths this out a bit but it still gives a false impression. I've been considering various different solutions to it today but I've not settled on the correct solution yet given the data as currently presented is 'correct' but not particularly useful.
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Does Firefox do this by default or is there a setting to upgrade http to https?
As mentioned briefly on the blog I didn't want to spend any money on this (currently not employed and living off savings) so it's sitting on the droplet also running the blog, I assume only 1 thing can run off 443? If that's the case I won't be looking to enable ssl for this, apologies.
I have no idea, but I assume that if one asks for https and is only offered http, that would be a security hole. I just tried asking for http and it reverted to https.
I can't help, I have no knowledge of these things. Sorry 8-(
Ah, OK, sorry to hear it doesn't work. It's strange, it shouldn't be attempting to use https (though for security reasons it should so I assume Ive been testing against outdated browsers). Sorry.
This is really cool. Seems the backend is a bit slowed down with the traffic. Would be cool if the graph had more horizontal space on a small phone without rotating it and re running the query.
From a purely dataviz standpoint, this is a fail. The optimal visualization would allow for all 3 terms to be shown on the same graph, or at least the same page. 3 distinct graphs could be a decent comparison, if the y-axis remained constant. But since it doesn't, every graph peaks at the same approximate height, so really the only thing an end-user, seeking a comparison of similar concepts/terms, would likely find useful is the max displayed value on the y-axis.
I recognize this is little more than a proof-of-concept at this point, so perhaps "fail" is a strong word, but hey, it's what the author chose to submit.
This is a fair criticism and from the feedback represents a fairly major missing functionality in the site. For what it's worth I only realised this might be a useful feature after I finished version 1. From my write up[0]: "Allow multiple trends on the same plot. It would be interesting to compare Kubernetes with Docker directly, or PyTorch with Tensorflow to get an idea of the relative trends in attention".
Initially I built the front end to analyse a single term (recession) rather than for trend comparison but it would definitely be useful and I'll look at adding it.
I was randomly thinking about that a few days ago, seems to me like robotics is not seen as the "future" as it was before, that's a shame.
I think the potential for home robots is huge, but people probably now realize they are also very dangerous because of all the information they could gather on individuals.
I guess I'll wait for selfhosted decentralized robots then :(
Here is a sarcastic view that has elements of truth.
The old sales is model is consumers owned houses. The could then buy an 'appliance' to last many years for goodly-portion-of-monthly-or-annual-wage, on the promise it will 'save you time' and 'improve quality of life'.
The new model is consumers rent forever. They buy an 'experience' to last a second for ripoff-price-but-compares-well-to-drinking-or-theater-tickets, on the premise it will keep them unfocused and temporarily fulfil their deeply vacuous lives, thus staving off an expensive shrink or a higher does prescription of antidepressants.
In this new model, robots will not be owned by consumers, but will be public service infrastructure. This is because the consumers have nowhere to put them (don't own a home), move too often to justify purchase, and cannot afford a substantial outlay anyway.
For the monthly view, it should probably truncate the ending date so as to not show a partial month number. February just started so it makes every search term look like it is plunging.
Yeah it's annoying, I think I'll add a toggle "Display data for incomplete period" or similar so the user can switch between views (for something like "coronavirus" the data from the first few days of the month exceeds that from the previous full month so I don't want to discard it entirely).
Thanks for the bug report, I should probably add some front end validation for the search term since in the current design Lucene will only index letters and numbers (which is a problem for searching languages like C++).
Interesting searches:
Bitcoin (2 peaks, now down)
Drone (up and down)
Machine learning (post peak)
AI (post peak with a sudden new peak)
SaaS (steady rise to steady high, then fall and return)
Dropbox - rise and gradual fall
Quora - sharp start, low gradual fall
Kickstarter - stunning fall over time
and so on. These & Uber, Slack, Tesla and other company names give a good picture of how 'exciting' these companies are to this particular market of tech early adopters, where exciting is defined as either new or controversial, which is the very definition of "news".
Nice. One thought I had is it would be cool to be able to click on any (non-zero) point on the graph and see a list of the articles from that day, sort of a drill-down on WHY was that term peaking in popularity then?
That's a good idea, thanks. It might challenge my limited JavaScript but it's definitely worth adding. At the moment you can get the full data from a graph using the API endpoint. For Tensorflow: http://eliot-jones.com:5690/api/results/tensorflow
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You can use the "Display as % of stories" button just above the results plot which should account for the growth in the total submissions per day, or did you mean something else?
(I apologize, I cannot edit my previous comment from the client I'm currently using.) I'm not seeing that % option, though. I'd be happy to send you a screenshot somehow, if it helps.
That is odd sorry about that, you can email it to me "elioty at hotmail dot co dot uk" or stick it in a github issue: https://github.com/EliotJones/HnTrends
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 140 ms ] threadAs I mention in the blog post this is hosted on the lowest tier DO droplet so will probably fall over soon.
One q - I can't seem to click through to a specific date? Is this me missing something or you not making it available? Would seem the next obvious interaction?
maybe disregarding or scaling the last data point for the whole month would make the graph smoother
it would be nice to add multiple terms for a search to compare them in the chart
As mentioned briefly on the blog I didn't want to spend any money on this (currently not employed and living off savings) so it's sitting on the droplet also running the blog, I assume only 1 thing can run off 443? If that's the case I won't be looking to enable ssl for this, apologies.
I can't help, I have no knowledge of these things. Sorry 8-(
[0]: https://docs.nginx.com/nginx/admin-guide/web-server/reverse-... [1]: https://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.4/howto/reverse_proxy.html
React: http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=React&allwords=tru...
Angular: http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=Angular&allwords=t...
Vue: http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=Vue&allwords=true
I recognize this is little more than a proof-of-concept at this point, so perhaps "fail" is a strong word, but hey, it's what the author chose to submit.
Initially I built the front end to analyse a single term (recession) rather than for trend comparison but it would definitely be useful and I'll look at adding it.
[0]: https://eliot-jones.com/2020/1/hackernews-trends
Potentially interpreted as interest peaking 2015-2019, currently in decline.
I think the potential for home robots is huge, but people probably now realize they are also very dangerous because of all the information they could gather on individuals.
I guess I'll wait for selfhosted decentralized robots then :(
The old sales is model is consumers owned houses. The could then buy an 'appliance' to last many years for goodly-portion-of-monthly-or-annual-wage, on the promise it will 'save you time' and 'improve quality of life'.
The new model is consumers rent forever. They buy an 'experience' to last a second for ripoff-price-but-compares-well-to-drinking-or-theater-tickets, on the premise it will keep them unfocused and temporarily fulfil their deeply vacuous lives, thus staving off an expensive shrink or a higher does prescription of antidepressants.
In this new model, robots will not be owned by consumers, but will be public service infrastructure. This is because the consumers have nowhere to put them (don't own a home), move too often to justify purchase, and cannot afford a substantial outlay anyway.
http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=obama&allwords=tru... http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=trump&allwords=tru...
Searching for "--" results in an Error page.
[0] http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=coronavirus&allwor...
[1] https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=23&prefix=true&qu...
Would be nice, though, to compare relative to an evergreen term like "computer" the way stock performance gets compared to an index.
and so on. These & Uber, Slack, Tesla and other company names give a good picture of how 'exciting' these companies are to this particular market of tech early adopters, where exciting is defined as either new or controversial, which is the very definition of "news".
http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=APL&allwords=true
http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=k&allwords=true
http://eliot-jones.com:5690/Home/Trend?id=arrays&allwords=tr...
https://hnprofile.com/compare?search=AWS,GCP%20|%20Google%20...