Ask HN: How do you deal with social isolation while working from home?
Hey HN,
I've been working from home the last couple of months due to the Covid-19 lockdown. In the beginning, it was great. Being able to wake up and pretty much start working 5 minutes later, having my own kitchen/toilet close by, etc. However, I quickly started to miss the small everyday interactions with my co-workers.
That made me wonder, what solutions do you have in place to compensate for the social aspect of working in an office?
For example, while not perfect, I have found that just starting a call with a colleague without anything specific to talk about feels better than just hacking away on my own.
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[ 8.4 ms ] story [ 164 ms ] threadIt’s not healthy.
The thing is, WFH is not for everyone. Some people will thrive in it, and some will not, and that's OK. Don't try and force yourself into a pattern that doesn't suit. Once the pandemic is over, revert to the work environment you enjoy most.
In the meantime, if you feel lonely, try always-on voice comms with your teammates while you all work as usual, mostly the audio will be quiet, but it does allow for people to spontaneously ask questions, or bounce ideas, is if you all were still in the office.
What software or hardware does your team use for this?
A little more awkward nowadays with lockdowns and such, which has me a little twitchy.
Offices aren't healthy for many.
Lost time from commuting, increased carbon footprint, high distraction, and low control over the environment are disadvantages not shared with a properly configured home office.
I get to spend more time exercising, more time with loved ones, and pets, and I save money.
I also do get to talk and banter with coworkers on video calls and slack.
As an introvert with a medical condition, a wife and three kids at home, remote working is the best thing that's ever happened in my career, and I can't see myself working in an office unless there were some incredibly good incentives (and closed individual offices).
I have made amazing, lifelong friends through workplaces, but depending on one's workplace for human interaction is fraught. Workplaces are generally unhealthy places to varying degrees.
This is capitalism. I am not anti-capitalism, but the reality is that capitalism is all about extracting value from labor. Making friends at work is a bit like chunks of fruit befriending each other as they're fed through a juice presser.
This is wonderful to read!Now that I am home, I found other things to do. Like staring out of the window, reading reddit/HN, taking a quick nap or cook something to eat.
It's not so bad. I don't miss people, I don't miss co-workers.
Also, meetings seems to be most efficient and comfortable when it's all or nothing = either everyone is virtual, or they're all physical.
In some ways, it is even beter this way. We never could riff on our leaders all hands meetings in person the way we can over slack while watching their zoom call.
I’m also on conference calls half the day. Quiet is nice.
Right.
If remote working makes you suffer socially, then it could be your social life that needs looking at, not your work-environment.
At some point I quit, went through some other jobn searches, and started working from home doing software dev work.
SO I've been working on my own for 20 years, and 10 of those have been doing remote dev work.
Two things have been helpful:
- I had a family for most of that time, - I have activities outside of work (playing music and rock climbing) that I need to interact with other folks to do.
For the first six weeks or so of the pandemic quarantine I curtailed those activities.
At this point, I now have a small group of 10 or so people across two bands and a couple of dudes I climb with, and so I am back into having some socialization. If I get exposed (or anyone in my groups is exposed), it's a small enough set of people I can contract trace.
So, with the exception of the 75-person buddist group I was going to and playing music in bars, I am more or less back to the amount of socialization I was getting before the pandemic.
That's what keeps me from feeling isolated.
Why not take up botany https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTsAFpSXj7Y
At home we FaceTime people we normally drink beer together and do it remotely. Two or three families in a videochat. We even attended an all-remote wedding.
There has always been a tradition of taking a short break without agenda in Sweden. (non-work related is fine too).
Now that it is remote, its simply done in a video chat and it works equally well.
That's a really good idea.
My version of this is to just suggest a call for very minor things and then try to toss in a good bit of small talk since we're on the call anyway.
Given it's summer (in the US) and school's out, those teenage boys may be thinking the same thing about their parents! ;-)
sounds like you've already found a like minded coworker who doesn't mind being taking a break from work to hang out with you. Don't wear him/her out :) It is rare to find someone who isn't a slave to sprint goals.
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That said, the garden has been one of the most calming, literally grounding things since this began. We’ve all gotten a lot out of it. Something about taking care of a living thing. The scale could range from a tiny bonsai tree in a container, to a row of vegetables if you have space for it.
Edit: I realize this doesn’t answer the question directly, but it’s been soothing so figured I’d share it anyway.