All of our corporate computers have this now instead of IE11....very refreshing as a web developer to have something modern to target for intranet apps.
I really like the reader mode and speech-to-text engine, it's very high quality. Just one question though, is the browser going to have linux support at some point?
Lots of Linux users use Chrome so it’s wouldn’t be that surprising if it got a little traction from users that want a non-google chrome with out of the box widevine
Interestingly, one of the most important battles in the browser (and apps in general) market now is the privacy aspect. There are two vendor groups here: one explicitly mentions it (Apple, Mozilla), and the other remains silent, speaking only about non-provacy features (Google, Microsoft).
This is absolutely not the same. Mozilla is actively fighting with user tracking agains their will. Apple is also making some steps in the same direction and speaking about it loudly. In the meantime, Google and MS are doing whatever they can get away with.
Great software companies talk to their users rather than take the data. Sorry but fuck the developers and cost. If your product can't make it to market without telemetry, then you have other problems.
I switched from Chrome for Edge's native integration with Windows credentialing and Office 365. In a corporate environment that relies heavily on Windows and the Office suite, it really works very well. Its elegant account management between personal and work instances is also fantastic.
You can configure Firefox to do native Windows authentication in an O366 enterprise environment. I have done this on my corporate laptop, and it lets me use Firefox as my primary browser for any corporate / SSO site.
That would a actually be a hell of a competitive advantage. There are a few forks of chromium that have extension support but MS throwing down might push Google to allow them.
Taking a look at the privacy whitepaper [0], there's a long list of data gathering initiatives that seemingly need to be turned off manually (a number of sections explicitly mention opt-out rather than opt-in). I can't check the defaults though, since it doesn't run on Linux. The main problem with opt-out is Microsoft's track record of re-enabling telemetry after it has been turned off by the user, and that's not something you'd want in a web browser.
Just about every update they push to my main workstation usually breaks something for quite a long time. the recent update which I thought I had deferred broke every single thumbnail and the system's ability to remake thumbnails on a machine that stores millions of video files. The heck with using their browser I don't want that to be broken after Avery pushed update too
Been using the new Edge Browser since two weeks, mostly for testing our new web app. I must say i'm really impressed. The speed definitely is better than Firefox (which is my default). To give due credit, this is the best browser from Microsoft.
Citation needed? Linux users pining for Microsoft products is a rarity. Why would they go for a closed-source browser when they can go with the open-source, non-google Chromium (same engine) or Firefox?
Plus one here and a few more in my company. I already run official Google Chrome everywhere and I don't give a hoot about running closed-source software, such as the official VS Code binaries.
I'm on Linux because it's the most practical choice for me, not because I'm a FOSS warrior. I want Edge because it's going to be a well-maintained option to get away from Chrome if I they start doing things I don't like, such as limiting ad-blocking with Manifest v3.
Hear, hear. When Edge for Linux launches, developers for modern Windows customers (no IE) can finally do away with the Windows VMs to test their applications.
I'm glad I don't need to support Safari because there's no way in hell that that's ever going to come to Linux (or Windows again).
I found when using Ublock origin, when edge imported my extensions, it used the edge version, which has slightly different behaviour than the chrome store version. Install from chrome web store if you see inconsistent results
Note: This web page is for the Microsoft Edge browser, but it seems to detect your OS and shows the Edge version and download information for that platform (others are hidden behind a menu). So if some comments here seem to be talking about specific platforms, this could be the reason why.
I’ve been using Edge on Windows for a few months now. It crashes so many times (all windows just disappear suddenly) and makes my system unresponsive. It’s clear that Edge isn’t able to handle a few windows with a few tabs each, with memory management being the core issue.
When starting out to try it, I knew Edge would be using a lot of RAM since it’s based on Chromium, but I didn’t expect it to crash so much.
So Firefox stays, and continues to be, the primary browser.
On iOS, Edge is just another “skin” over Safari/WebKit underneath. It seems ok — i didn’t notice anything phenomenally better than some other browsers.
I don’t understand why Microsoft are still in the browser game. It would be like continuing to make mobile phones or mp3 players which they also lost a long time ago.
Because if they don't roll their own around Blink the answer isn't going to be "Ship Firefox" because if you actually ask all your users and developers "Just ship Chrome" will come out way on top.
Not saying I agree with it but thats reality. I'm more disgusted by the browser mono culture than most and how so many engineers recoil when I bring up their work isn't functioning at all even in browsers like Safari let alone Firefox and they consistently make snarky comments like "We should just tell them to use Chrome".
> It would be like continuing to make mobile phones
i’d suggest they stay out of business they can’t be successfully at. if your strategy is to ride the entrenched windows desktop vs. make an awesome product that people love then you will lose in the long run.
I'm disappointed they didn't put more effort into making the UI look like the old Edge. Things like the tab previews, or the sidebar-like way that bookmarks worked. Instead it's Chrome with a different home page. There's more changes behind the scenes of course, but from the user's perspective it's not obvious what the difference is between it and Chrome. And given the choice I think Chrome would win every time because for years there's been a sentiment that tech people don't use the Microsoft browser so it must be bad. The Edge rebrand was the attempt to reverse that perception, except now they've negated the benefit of the rebrand by taking away the things that distinguished Edge.
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 116 ms ] threadAlso they wrote a privacy whitepaper for Edge as well: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/privacy-whit...
I am not interested in Edge because it is just closed sourced fork of chromium.
Better use firefox or ungoogled chromium or new upcoming
Bold browser(brave browser fork without crypto or token)
https://github.com/BoldBrowser
It has some opera browser features. It has also released part of it's source code.
At the end of the day,i am not using vivaldi because it is not open source. Brave browser is also nice imo(except crypto and tokens)
I suppose that excludes MS's aggressive use of telemetry in Edge itself
Still, we don't how much telemetry is baked in the core.
Great software learns from its users. It also makes developers' lives infinitely easier and ergo makes the product 10x better for endusers.
They take the data and still make decisions that are opposite of what the data clearly shows.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Integrated_...
“corpdomain.com,microsoft.com,microsoftonline.com,office.com,corpdomain.sharepoint.com,corpdomain.local,windows.net”
If I find an SSO-enabled site that doesn’t work, I add it to the list. I hope that helps!
[0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-gb/microsoft-edge/privacy-whit...
(It's not uBlock.. But better than no protection).
[0]: https://i.imgur.com/T53p79k.jpg
Wonder how much of each is left.
So,testing on edge would render same as chrome.
I'm on Linux because it's the most practical choice for me, not because I'm a FOSS warrior. I want Edge because it's going to be a well-maintained option to get away from Chrome if I they start doing things I don't like, such as limiting ad-blocking with Manifest v3.
I'm glad I don't need to support Safari because there's no way in hell that that's ever going to come to Linux (or Windows again).
I’ve been using Edge on Windows for a few months now. It crashes so many times (all windows just disappear suddenly) and makes my system unresponsive. It’s clear that Edge isn’t able to handle a few windows with a few tabs each, with memory management being the core issue.
When starting out to try it, I knew Edge would be using a lot of RAM since it’s based on Chromium, but I didn’t expect it to crash so much.
So Firefox stays, and continues to be, the primary browser.
On iOS, Edge is just another “skin” over Safari/WebKit underneath. It seems ok — i didn’t notice anything phenomenally better than some other browsers.
Because if they don't roll their own around Blink the answer isn't going to be "Ship Firefox" because if you actually ask all your users and developers "Just ship Chrome" will come out way on top.
Not saying I agree with it but thats reality. I'm more disgusted by the browser mono culture than most and how so many engineers recoil when I bring up their work isn't functioning at all even in browsers like Safari let alone Firefox and they consistently make snarky comments like "We should just tell them to use Chrome".
> It would be like continuing to make mobile phones
I mean, they are https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-duo
That's the whole point. If there's no difference between Edge and Chrome, why should the average user go out of their way to get Chrome?