What the hell was wrong with the second season? The first season was amazing, pure cyberpunk pulp. I loved it.
I didn't even finish watching the second season, it turned into some syfy channel crap. No edge, no daring, no cyberpunk. It was completely neutered.
Cyberpunk is about thrusting the viewer into the perverse and the uncomfortable so the viewer can can glimpse into the abyss. If it doesn't disgust and excite you at the same time, it isn't cyberpunk.
You can't make safe, politically correct cyberpunk. And unfortunately, that's what happened with season 2.
Hopefully before I die I can either play Cyberpunk 2077, or watch a Neuromancer movie/series.
The problem I think is the premise is broken. It's the Teletransportation paradox basically. And the more you expand on that the more it breaks down.
In season one it's obvious the sleeves are not you since you can double sleeve, but also people are happy to die. Also you can live forever in AI. The season whips out before you can think.
Same, we didn't make it through the second season either. Just didn't find it interesting. I feel like the plot started getting stupider and the characters less interesting.
I've noticed netflix shows have this second, sometimes third season, neutering. The first seasons of a lot of netflix originals are great, the ones that make it through that first season cancel thing tend to have a 50/50 second season, then if they get a third, the whole thing turns into a pale imitation of why they were enjoyable way back in season 1.
The problem that seems clear to me is that you've never read the book series.
Only the first book could sensibly be considered or adapted as cyberpunk. Each of the sequels features the main character in a different time, location, and body. I'm somewhat surprised they were able to carry off the second season as well as they did.
Unless they had intended to use the first book as a jumping off point into a long series set in that particular instantiation, there was no way that they could successfully pull off an entire tv series.
Sometimes literature isn't easy to dramatize on television. I'm ok with that.
Isn’t this Netflix’s business model? Barring extremely popular shows, they cancel them even if they were largely successful, after the 2nd season because TV contracts are written such that the 3rd season is when the makers of the show get significant raises.
The problem that seems clear to me is that a lot of viewers never read the book series.
Only the first book could sensibly be considered or adapted as cyberpunk. Each of the sequels features the main character in a different time, location, and body. I'm somewhat surprised they were able to carry off the second season as well as they did.
Unless they had intended to use the first book as a jumping off point into a long series set in that particular instantiation, there was no way that they could successfully pull off an entire tv series.
Sometimes literature isn't easy to dramatize on television. I'm ok with that.
want an idea for a tv show? and if in the future, where souls live forever in matrix, in peaceful matrix where everybody is a king or a queen with unlimited slave npcs; and only mech bodies exists outside matrix, those machines do find a way to communicate with an alien high-tech civilization, but the latch is around 1 year. will do the kings and queens get to work on the problem and start to vanish heaven?
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Cyberpunk is about thrusting the viewer into the perverse and the uncomfortable so the viewer can can glimpse into the abyss. If it doesn't disgust and excite you at the same time, it isn't cyberpunk.
You can't make safe, politically correct cyberpunk. And unfortunately, that's what happened with season 2.
Hopefully before I die I can either play Cyberpunk 2077, or watch a Neuromancer movie/series.
The second book I thought was they same.
The problem I think is the premise is broken. It's the Teletransportation paradox basically. And the more you expand on that the more it breaks down.
In season one it's obvious the sleeves are not you since you can double sleeve, but also people are happy to die. Also you can live forever in AI. The season whips out before you can think.
Season two....
Only the first book could sensibly be considered or adapted as cyberpunk. Each of the sequels features the main character in a different time, location, and body. I'm somewhat surprised they were able to carry off the second season as well as they did.
Unless they had intended to use the first book as a jumping off point into a long series set in that particular instantiation, there was no way that they could successfully pull off an entire tv series.
Sometimes literature isn't easy to dramatize on television. I'm ok with that.
The problem that seems clear to me is that a lot of viewers never read the book series. Only the first book could sensibly be considered or adapted as cyberpunk. Each of the sequels features the main character in a different time, location, and body. I'm somewhat surprised they were able to carry off the second season as well as they did.
Unless they had intended to use the first book as a jumping off point into a long series set in that particular instantiation, there was no way that they could successfully pull off an entire tv series.
Sometimes literature isn't easy to dramatize on television. I'm ok with that.