Hallelujah. iTunes slowly became so intolerable that after using it for 20 years, I switched to my own cobbled-together system of mpd, ncmpcpp, Decoupled (for iPhone), scripts, and a folder full of audio files. A pain, but better than iTunes was.
Within the apple ecosystem it does okay. I dont like that i cant play FLAC but otherwise its mostly fine for my use. I dont really stream, everything i own outright and have on a NAS, which syncs to my phone.
With the said....outside of the ecosystem its nonexistant.
For example. Working on my linux partition....no music. Can will browse my library and make a playlist in say....audacious, but nothing Ive used before.
Same with windows.
I have strongly been considering just spinning up a VM and using navidrome and maybe play:sub on my iPhone or something.
But then thats another VM i have to tend to, even if i automate like 99% of tasks.
iTunes/Music syncing while my phone is on network also means i dont need my VPN or to DMZ navidrome...which is nice i guess.
This is why you should have a blog: Because when you throw your reddit comments onto your own website and show a "post archive" on the sidebar, you're a blogger worth being submitted to Hacker News.
The point is valid, but the presentation and profane clickbait are lower tier.
What a pointlessly elitist take. People shouldn't have a blog, or submit their content to hacker news, unless it's "worthy"? As if being "worthy" of hacker news is some mantle everyone should strive for.
If you don't like it, don't vote for it. But I didn't quite feel like writing a long-form piece about my Apple Music woes and submitting it to the New Yorker this time.
I ran into this exact problem myself. In the end, my only option was to request a download of my Apple ID data and look through the CSV files to finally find the track.
Why not use a different music player and maybe also write about problems that actually matter? This is quite honestly a very silly post to write, let alone to actively advertise.
It seems like the author of this post isn't aware of the History feature built-in to both desktop and mobile Music.app (formerly known as iTunes). I don't imagine they care that it exists, or that it invalidates the example they used in their rant about Apple software quality, but for whatever it's worth, mine goes back for weeks or months across many device restarts.
I haven’t played music in awhile and I can’t seem to get that list to appear on my phone. It would be nice if Apple would document how this works or if they could integrate with Last.fm the way Spotify does.
I do care, thanks for bringing it up. However that feature doesn’t work if you’re airplaying to a device or if another non-iPhone is playing your music (like a HomePod).
This makes it inconsistent at best and useless at worst, and doesn’t make me feel any better about Apple software quality.
It’s the post author’s job to describe them, or else the rant can be easily misinterpreted as PEBCAK and disregarded by others, or spawn unnecessary threads such as this one I started. It is of course their right not to do so, but I assume with screeds like this that the goal is to convince others to be outraged, and it doesn’t do a good job of that.
It cannot be fixed until you replace the current product managers at Apple. They've created the worst possible app by any standards - Apple Music app on the iPhone is a complete and utter disaster.
This is not a software engineer's problem. This is the oversight committee and product owners that puts priorities together.
I was happy to see it when I spotted the first (non-commercial) online radio station that was sending out the artist and track name as each song played. Because I missed the days when DJs did that before/after every track.
That was many years ago. Most (non-commercial, at least) online stations still don't do it, dammit. Seems to me that, if you're going to use artists' music to hold on to listeners, you should and had oughta detail it. But no ... nor do they have online playlists. KEXP managed that 10 years ago.
Nobody is forcing OP, or anyone, to use Apple Music. You are all aware that you can cancel and choose another service or go back to WinAMP or whatever your music stack is. If Apple Music sucks, go elsewhere. Why is a rant newsworthy to the rest of HN? My guess is you’ll find something wrong with all music service apps after awhile.
So for the rest of us we of course will have to just deal with it all while look forward to your bugless, perfect service that makes everyone happy.
Maybe try Calm for the anger bit, mates? ;) let’s lighten it up a bit here.
> Nobody is forcing OP, or anyone, to use Apple Music
The promise of ecosystem integration kind of is. Apple, sometimes softly and sometimes very aggressively wants to keep people inside their garden. Since they keep raising the walls it‘s increasingly an all or nothing proposition - which increases the pressure for Apple to do better in areas in which they‘re not doing well.
I think for the ecosystem & its customers it‘s ultimately a good thing.
Angry posts about UX like this one are something making the Apple ecosystem uniquely worth it to me. These are often influential people pointing loudly at fairly obvious (or non-obvious) issues and Apple (kind of) have to respond.
Meanwhile Android (and other) products are so fragmented and people are so used to things not working that nothing will ever change.
More people should be angrier about bad UX to make companies start to care. Fix your damn glaring issues. Test your stuff. I am aware that this is hindered by people primarily looking for cheap- instead of reliable products.
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[ 28.6 ms ] story [ 735 ms ] threadWithin the apple ecosystem it does okay. I dont like that i cant play FLAC but otherwise its mostly fine for my use. I dont really stream, everything i own outright and have on a NAS, which syncs to my phone.
With the said....outside of the ecosystem its nonexistant.
For example. Working on my linux partition....no music. Can will browse my library and make a playlist in say....audacious, but nothing Ive used before.
Same with windows.
I have strongly been considering just spinning up a VM and using navidrome and maybe play:sub on my iPhone or something.
But then thats another VM i have to tend to, even if i automate like 99% of tasks.
iTunes/Music syncing while my phone is on network also means i dont need my VPN or to DMZ navidrome...which is nice i guess.
The point is valid, but the presentation and profane clickbait are lower tier.
If you don't like it, don't vote for it. But I didn't quite feel like writing a long-form piece about my Apple Music woes and submitting it to the New Yorker this time.
I didn't flag this or report it. Hey, I write lots of reddit comments and some blog posts, too. I even said it made a good point!
HN on the other hand is ... ohh nevermind :)
[Edit: See? Five down so far!]
I haven’t played music in awhile and I can’t seem to get that list to appear on my phone. It would be nice if Apple would document how this works or if they could integrate with Last.fm the way Spotify does.
This makes it inconsistent at best and useless at worst, and doesn’t make me feel any better about Apple software quality.
This is not a software engineer's problem. This is the oversight committee and product owners that puts priorities together.
That was many years ago. Most (non-commercial, at least) online stations still don't do it, dammit. Seems to me that, if you're going to use artists' music to hold on to listeners, you should and had oughta detail it. But no ... nor do they have online playlists. KEXP managed that 10 years ago.
Nobody is forcing OP, or anyone, to use Apple Music. You are all aware that you can cancel and choose another service or go back to WinAMP or whatever your music stack is. If Apple Music sucks, go elsewhere. Why is a rant newsworthy to the rest of HN? My guess is you’ll find something wrong with all music service apps after awhile.
So for the rest of us we of course will have to just deal with it all while look forward to your bugless, perfect service that makes everyone happy.
Maybe try Calm for the anger bit, mates? ;) let’s lighten it up a bit here.
The promise of ecosystem integration kind of is. Apple, sometimes softly and sometimes very aggressively wants to keep people inside their garden. Since they keep raising the walls it‘s increasingly an all or nothing proposition - which increases the pressure for Apple to do better in areas in which they‘re not doing well.
I think for the ecosystem & its customers it‘s ultimately a good thing.
Meanwhile Android (and other) products are so fragmented and people are so used to things not working that nothing will ever change.
More people should be angrier about bad UX to make companies start to care. Fix your damn glaring issues. Test your stuff. I am aware that this is hindered by people primarily looking for cheap- instead of reliable products.