For every employee that walks out many more talented and hungry employees will march right in. I get the impression that there’s a perception that the work from home crowd is starting to get a little entitled
Were your assertion true, there would be millions of Americans lining up to be burger flippers and welders-- the market is showing that isn't happening.
Morgan hasn't been hurting for the last 16 months-- maybe the CEO was on the office fun planning committee.
As long as we compete in a global economy, I can assure you there are foreigners who will work twice as hard for less. They will not have a problem filling the positions
This won't solve anything. The bosses that want people in the office wouldn't hire these foreigners. The bosses that are all in on WFH value strong communication skills and schedule overlap, so they also wouldn't hire these foreigners
This is ignorant of the reality of the personnel strategy in these institutions over the last decade, at least.
Strong technical teams in securities are almost entirely foreign. I was one of two Americans in a unit of fifty. Good communication in mathematics and software doesn’t require you to be from the USA.
They’ve also been building quantitative and technical teams in places like India for years to stand up core functions so that they can effectively deliver larger objectives, and moving responsibilities there for components of larger mandates.
This is only accelerating due to their inability or unwillingness to compete in the US for tech and quantitative talent.
This wasn't my experience. I consulted at ~20 different large (non-tech) companies. Every software development offshoring attempt failed and all the jobs ended up coming back to the US.
I don't doubt there will be international competition for specialized SWE jobs, but most of the jobs that revolve around everyday business automation and support will likely stay 'local'.
Let’s say I work for a big multinational. Why are the billing rates for Indians (in particular) $20/hr whereas the rates for Americans are 10x or more? Why is this apparent wage gap so high? Maybe a rhetorical question.
Makes sense. JPM and GS are both ruthless anyway, and if you work there you're probably someone who values a high salary more than the average engineer.
GS is known for the “discount”: they pay less to all levels of employees than their peers.
Both of these companies pay somewhat low wages relative to jobs requiring equivalent expertise in tech. A common story I hear from technical managers in these places is their subordinates being hired away by tech for a significant premium over the managers compensation.
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Morgan hasn't been hurting for the last 16 months-- maybe the CEO was on the office fun planning committee.
Even if you don't get stabbed or mugged, it constantly smells like throw up and there's usually no seats.
Besides, the new employees themselves may demand WFH
After all, many of the software engineering offices are in New York, while employees live in New Jersey(2 hrs away)
And wages have been largely static since the 70s. They certainly haven't kept up with inflation.
Strong technical teams in securities are almost entirely foreign. I was one of two Americans in a unit of fifty. Good communication in mathematics and software doesn’t require you to be from the USA.
They’ve also been building quantitative and technical teams in places like India for years to stand up core functions so that they can effectively deliver larger objectives, and moving responsibilities there for components of larger mandates.
This is only accelerating due to their inability or unwillingness to compete in the US for tech and quantitative talent.
I don't doubt there will be international competition for specialized SWE jobs, but most of the jobs that revolve around everyday business automation and support will likely stay 'local'.
Both of these companies pay somewhat low wages relative to jobs requiring equivalent expertise in tech. A common story I hear from technical managers in these places is their subordinates being hired away by tech for a significant premium over the managers compensation.
My context is the UK, where FANG like salaries are mostly found in finance.