> So collision did happen! For just two frames (this code runs every frame; I was able to trace it back to the frame interrupt handler, so once every 60Hz). You’d expect a real collision to last more than two frames.
But that bat is miles away from the Alf character, so it's still missing an explanation of why it counts as a collision. (Plus, that section "But why is the bat there?", doesn't appear to answer that question.)
From my understanding the position of the objects are different between NTSC and PAL. So if you set it to display NTSC you see the enemies in the wrong positions and the collisions are calculated on PAL.
Note: I'm not 100% sure I understood the article correctly
I found the article quite confusing I have 3 possible understandings:
1. The one stated above
2. Collision is extremely fast and not displayed on screen ( if was displayed in screen it will be easy to spot by going frame by frame )
3. Something else collided with something else. In the article it talks about the fish with the health bar
I think it came down to a single flag that gets set by the video chip for any two objects that collide. Once the flag is set, the game code needs to figure out which two sprite objects in the scene could have possibly collided. Some time elapses between the flag being set, and the code checking for the collision, allowing for other things to happen in the game (even if only briefly). Ultimately this creates a lot of room for errors because the software is analyzing the game in a slightly different state than when the collision actually occurred, and it may infer a collision between two objects that did not actually collide, due to some other limitations on resources and using object boundary boxes that do not perfectly map to the actual pixels occupied by an object.
The article doesn't say. In the mini-animation of when the fault occurred, after the momentary blank, you can see the bat does actually get partially concealed by something associated with the ALF sprite; it's possible that that counts as a collision. That would seem to indicate three possibilities:
1. The top of the ALF sprite is wider than it looks and has some non-transparent black in it.
2. There's another (non-transparent black) sprite there that's colliding.
3. There's a sprite multiplexing limitation that somehow counts as a collision.
A more suitable title is perhaps "Collision Detection In Videogames Is Hard: The Story of Alf"
There are many more areas that the HN crowd would be interested in where "collisions" are a thing. Self-driving cars, hash functions, lock-free data structures, etc.
"The Story of Alf" does not make this more specific either. "Alf" could easily be the nickname of some self-driving project or the acronym for some lock-free data structure or so.
Darbian (of Super Mario Bros speedrun fame) has been speedrunning this game on Twitch recently, on an actual Master System console. Previously he had played on the Genesis, which had different strategies due to the collision detection differences. His world record on it is just a bit under 5 minutes. Most of the runs die on that (very frustrating) bat section due to collision detection. I wonder if he has seen this article yet.
Alf was pretty big all over the world, we even had a dubbed version here in South Africa. It was no fun as an adult to see the movie version and have him sound so weird.
When I was making my own extremely crappy and derivative games on the TI-99 4/A, the agony of doubly-interpreted BASIC meant that my pre-programmed walls and pits and such were painful to check for. I hit upon the idea of just checking the video array for where my sprite was going to move. Which wasn't bad for a tween.
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[ 2.5 ms ] story [ 94.9 ms ] threadIt happened but was too fast for a human eye.
Note: I'm not 100% sure I understood the article correctly
I found the article quite confusing I have 3 possible understandings:
1. The one stated above
2. Collision is extremely fast and not displayed on screen ( if was displayed in screen it will be easy to spot by going frame by frame )
3. Something else collided with something else. In the article it talks about the fish with the health bar
1. The top of the ALF sprite is wider than it looks and has some non-transparent black in it.
2. There's another (non-transparent black) sprite there that's colliding.
3. There's a sprite multiplexing limitation that somehow counts as a collision.
There are many more areas that the HN crowd would be interested in where "collisions" are a thing. Self-driving cars, hash functions, lock-free data structures, etc.
"The Story of Alf" does not make this more specific either. "Alf" could easily be the nickname of some self-driving project or the acronym for some lock-free data structure or so.
Eg something that automatically calls the police and ambulance.
When I was making my own extremely crappy and derivative games on the TI-99 4/A, the agony of doubly-interpreted BASIC meant that my pre-programmed walls and pits and such were painful to check for. I hit upon the idea of just checking the video array for where my sprite was going to move. Which wasn't bad for a tween.
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