The front page reminds me more of Reddit now. I have been spending less time on HN overall for weeks, and a larger proportion of what I do on the New pages. A lot of good and interesting comp sci posts don't get voted up any more.
I do it rarely - once in a 2 weeks I think - but if I do I do the first thing (flag bad posts, vote good). I think that how often you visit 'new page' has some significance in this poll, too.
I agree - though since it's now made the front page I hope that I get a wider cross section of users - but I know I'll miss a lot of people who just lurk and/or don't vote/don't take part in polls.
Only when there is nothing interesting for me on the front page. But then I first go to the Ask section, if nothing interesting there only then venture to the new section.
I chose "No - I don't have time" but the real reason is more "No - I forget to/don't bother to/I do but get bored after a few bad links and leave, and anyway I'm only there once a fortnight".
Incidentally, this poll has guilt tripped me into checking the new page again.
Sometimes there are very interesting posts there that never make it to the home. Perhaps the function that gives a post the score (something like a * voting + b * comments + c * total-comment-karma - d * age, I guess - never got to look into the code) could receive some adjustment, mostly in the age-related factor.
It's worth noting that this poll has dramatically increased the vote diversity of the new page. I hope that the increased attention will continue -- the new page needs lots more flagging & voting than it currently receives to keep the front page high-quality & diverse.
I wish the new page had two columns. The right column would contain posts that have been flagged, the left column would contain unflagged posts. This would free up space for more valid posts to get looked at by allowing spam posts to be quickly moved aside. The posts could be moved aside when some threshold of people had flagged, and any post I flagged would be moved aside in my view of the new page.
Also, it would be good if posts that have made it to the front page were removed from the new page freeing up even more space.
The column approach seems to make things clunky to me. From my viewpoint it would be better to see flagged posts grayer - just as comments with negative points, possibly with setting threshold in preferences (since it would be quite stupid to see eg. all page of 'grayed' posts).
How about giving the option of a two column view for users with a high enough karma. 'Top HN' on the left and 'New HN' on the right. As a result, the people with high enough karma to flag would be more inclined to scan the 'New HN' pages and further improve the quality of HN.
Even given to everyone it could still be beneficial.
I personally simply forget there's a /new/ much of the time, having the option to have new posts passively presented while I'm skimming would be tremendously helpful.
"Also, it would be good if posts that have made it to the front page were removed from the new page freeing up even more space."
I would really dislike it if those stories were removed. If it's only been an hour or two since I've gone through the front page then it's unlikely that there will be more than a couple of new stories there. Instead of rereading every title on the front page I can just go to the new page and scan for articles with scores above whatever threshold I'm in the mood for until I recognize one of them. Giving some indication that a post has been flagged might be nice but I don't see why having the new front page stories on the new page is a bad thing.
I've started to look at the new section more and more. I find the front page is becoming a bit dry. For me, the new section contains a lot more gems that get ignored.
yes, since the community is more cohesive/engineer/enterpreneur than reddit that has lots of noise/funny/look_at_me these days. So in Hacker News, the news tend to be "faster".
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[ 0.18 ms ] story [ 104 ms ] threadIncidentally, this poll has guilt tripped me into checking the new page again.
Also, it would be good if posts that have made it to the front page were removed from the new page freeing up even more space.
I personally simply forget there's a /new/ much of the time, having the option to have new posts passively presented while I'm skimming would be tremendously helpful.
I would really dislike it if those stories were removed. If it's only been an hour or two since I've gone through the front page then it's unlikely that there will be more than a couple of new stories there. Instead of rereading every title on the front page I can just go to the new page and scan for articles with scores above whatever threshold I'm in the mood for until I recognize one of them. Giving some indication that a post has been flagged might be nice but I don't see why having the new front page stories on the new page is a bad thing.
So I no longer visit the new page very much any more.
What is the "'old' section" implied?
The submissions go there first, and bubble up to HN main page only if they get enough upvotes.
This kind of question is pretty useless as a poll, if pg shows actual statistics I think it would be pretty far off.