Tell HN: Signing out and in to Apple device forcefully activates iCloud sync
Tested on my iPad and MacBook, if you have an iCloud sync turned off and sign out of your account, upon the next login all the iCloud switches gets turned on and you have to manually turn them off again.
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[ 4.2 ms ] story [ 118 ms ] thread"Before an image is stored in iCloud Photos, an on-device matching process is performed for that image against the known CSAM hashes."
You do not own an Apple device that you buy.
https://www.macworld.com/article/352875/ios-15-csam-scanning...
There's no way to avoid the Apple. It's become the Berlin Wall of computing. No admittance, no escape, secret police, protection racket.
Companies with apps don't have customers. They're unnaturally fenced off, cajoled, and taxed. Apple laughably claims privacy.
Meanwhile device owners can't repair their phones or expect not to be spied on. When they aren't paying $500 for RAM, they're letting Apple define what activities are permissible.
The damn thing doesn't even have a web browser that isn't safari. The Apple is so afraid of runtimes threatening the app store distribution model.
Why would you claim this? There are no limitations on web browsers.
All browsers on iOS must use the WebKit browser engine making them, in essence, safari clones with a different look and feel.
Some browsers do have their own extensions (Edge has AdBlock Plus built-in, but that's all; iCab has quite a few Javascript-based extensions) and of course you get things like using another vendor's bookmark and password sync. But that's about it.
Of course, there are (supposed-to-be-but-aren't) browser-agnostic WebExtensions — but again, only Safari implements them on iOS (starting with iOS 15), they must be bundled with an iOS app, and non-Safari browsers don't have access to those bundled extensions.
Perhaps those browsers will implement support for WebExtensions by some other mechanism but it certainly won't be the case that Firefox for iOS could run extensions intended for Firefox on desktop, nor would one expect extensions from the Chrome Web Store to work properly on Chrome for iOS.
Perhaps that's an upshot? Better support for browser-agnostic WebExtensions?
Even then, that's up to whether or not Apple permits that in the App Store.
I feel like we're giving Apple too much trust by labelling this CSAM detection. In reality the technology can (and probably will) be used to detect anything they want to.
I know there are a lot of eyes on iOS, but if they wanted find a place in the gigabytes of binary blobs to do this quietly, I think they could.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28273665
see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ios/comments/hzovl0/back_tap_set_to...
2. Do you think Apple would put the screenshots in the Photos app if they were taking them in order to spy on you?
You made that leap yourself.
I'm not pointing out a grand conspiracy, I'm pointing out another another gap in Apples privacy model.
> Even the reddit posts doesn't claim that
That is literally the entire post. But okay
Yes I did make the leap, because it doesn't seem like a relevant issue if it's not done on purpose by Apple.
This doesn't seem like thinking critically. Do you not imagine that Apple, the size they are, with all their lawyers take a decision like this seriously? It's not like a developer unilaterally decided that they were going to make this as a feature without levels of management and execs deciding that this was okay.
Assuming incompetence rather than malice only applies when there's no previous behaviour suggesting the contrary. The only explanation I can think of for this attitude, is that if we like using Apple products, we somehow have to 'make it ok' to ourselves. I'm at least able to separate the experience with using a product with the aspect of how that product is used by its manufacturer.
The requirement said to not lose the customers work. Everything else was on the development team most likely.
For instance updating your payment info or your account info (name etc)
Seriously I really want to be able to claim I own a piece of electronics again. I feel the next step will be the FBI putting in a watchlist whoever buys a Polaroid, a Framework laptop or a Pinephone (suspicious that you don't want to be spied on...).
> Previously, only applicants who needed additional vetting - such as people who had been to parts of the world controlled by terrorist groups - would need to hand over this data.
> But now applicants will have to give up their account names on a list of social media platforms, and also volunteer the details of their accounts on any sites not listed.
> Anyone who lies about their social media use could face "serious immigration consequences", according to an official who spoke to The Hill.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48486672
So it appears that the US have already started a program to assign a "social score" to individuals, just like the Chinese. However, unlike China, the US hasn't yet extended it to its citizens yet and the pilot program has been extended from "terrorists" only to all visiting foreigners and immigrants in the US.
Been a long time since I've had an AirDrop from a device that wasn't mine - don't you have to confirm acceptance?
According to [1], yes, unless it's from your Apple ID, you get a preview and have to explicitly accept/reject.
"When someone shares something with you using AirDrop, you see an alert with a preview. You can tap Accept or Decline."
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204144
Are you saying that if you hit "Decline", it still saves the photo to Photos?
Create a 5Gb (or whatever the default storage allocation is) file from /dev/zero and max out iCloud.
I don’t use iCloud and always turn the sync off but once in a while I see the toggles on again it’s so frustrating.
I also help some elderly with their iPhones and had setup iTunes backup to their iMacs, but every time I go to fix something the toggles are all on again. For one of them, they somehow enabled purchasing extra iCloud space so now they pay when they didn’t need to, and I don’t have the time to go through and figure out how to turn it off while also ensuring they keep all their photos.
If a user chooses to configure something in a certain way the vendor should not change that. Is it so hard to comprehend?
> Is it so hard to comprehend?
"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
You really have to continuously look your back and double-check anything.
And you have relatives, especially older ones, that want to buy and use all the new shiny things, and often don't understand that the tech we use today is not like the tech they used to buy 50 years ago.
50 years ago you bought a piece of technology, you paid it, you brought it into your house and it made your life easier, and that was it.
Nowadays you buy a piece of technology, it's going to spy you, the producer is going to alter its behavior via software updates, it's often going to refuse to work without a subscription and recurring payments, it's going to just stop working prematurely when the producer decides that you have to upgrade, and it's going to conviniently allow the government (or a foreign government) to take a look into your private life.
And it's so painful to see big tech companies wash this in shiny and colorful commercials.
Stallman had seen this before anyone else, he was right all along.