It has always been thus. The difference here is that a well-known, well-debated consumer grievance over the presence of headphone jacks is at the core of the ad.
Mocking Apple by copying its style makes you look hollow.
Even back when Apple was mocking PC users, back in the infamous "Switch" commercials and "Mac vs PC", they didn't just copy the Windows XP style.
Like it or not, Apple has style. It also doesn't have headpone jack, but there must be better way of communicating it than "hehe apple dumb". Especially when Ive is not even there anymore...
If this isn't the peak of empty marketing-speak, I wonder what the next step is. To me that ad is so lame, it's only one step removed from a very slick narration of
"Buy our stuff. It is good stuff. Please buy our stuff."
They are probably trying to mock Apple. I'm not sure, I have ambivalent feelings about this. I appreciate their critique of the removal of a very useful feature, but the whole ad is a bit too long. They could have done it in 20 seconds and still make a point.
That ad is so cringe, yikes! That being said, I'm happy without that "perfect circle" and wireless AirPods. I understand quality isn't up there with the top .00001% of people that can tell the difference. But I'm ok with that.
I don't know much about advertising. Why would they post the video in its current form on YT? It seems likely to be a turn-off to those who would otherwise be enthusiastic about the phone, and fodder for its detractors.
Most likely there will be several shorter spots with one or two of the bullet points. I think it's less confusing than posting every permutation. Perhaps they want a single link with all the views.
I'm an AirPods-wearing iPhone-loving guy, but I totally lost it at "(whispers) It's a headphone jack..." and lol'ed all over the place. It was long but kept me entertained.
I won't be buying a Pixel, but I can certainly appreciate the fun the marketing team had with this one and I'll take it. :)
I think the issue has been beaten to death but just to recuperate the main points:
* I have many headsets at home, some quite expensive, that I want to use directly, without any dongle hell
* "remove something so that people use a dongle" seems to become Apple's mantra which is really irresponsible given the current situation of our planet
* Apple's initial excuse "we removed the jack but made the phone waterproof" holds no water (pun intended) as other manufacturers were able to do it and keep the jack so it just makes Apple look lame
* people applauding Apple need to realize we had been able to use bluetooth audio also before they removed the jack, so the only result of their decision is the limitation of our freedom of how we use our device
I don't want to compare wired and wireless audio (including things like charging the batteries of BT headphones, the high cost of AirPods etc.) as these are more of a red herring and tangential to the main issue. The removal was clearly a customer-hostile move, that's all.
I agree that getting rid of the jack sucks, and the solution of "just buy new (expensive) bluetooth audio equipment" is bullshit.
... however, having switched to BT for audio devices myself (receiver, headphones, and of course even cheap cars have had it for years now), I need USB-A on my MacBook a whole lot more than I need a headphone jack on anything, now.
Interesting ad. I don’t have audio on, but it looks like an Apple ad. I use AirPods Pro now and before that, I had wireless Bose headphones. I’m not the target customer if they’re after customers who really need a headphone jack.
Having said that, I’m probably not going back to Pixel. In 2019, I got an iPhone 7 Plus on EBay for a great deal. I also work on a MacBook and liked it so much I bought a personal one. My AirPods Pro work seamlessly with both the phone and the MacBook. Everything just sort of works out of the box and I don’t have to mess with anything.
If Google can do that and do it better, I might consider switching.
I hope Google didn't pay money for this ad. It sounds like a competitor made it for Google.
> “a glorious achievement that draws from our past as it propels us into the future.”
Nothing tells that something is stuck in the past like focusing on one part that's no longer common on smartphones. I'd like to see what the ads for Google's wireless Bluetooth buds claim. When Apple removed the headphone jack, Samsung made fun of that too in its marketing campaigns. But guess what? It ditched the headphone jack too (as is usual for Samsung to do when it comes to copying the very things it ridicules Apple for, like user replaceable batteries, for instance).
Within a year, we'll see Google come "full circle" and ditch the headphone jack on smartphones it makes...assuming it's still into making Google branded smartphones by some means. I'm positive this ad will age poorly.
"Nothing tells that something is stuck in the past like focusing on one part that's no longer common on smartphones." Apple and some other companies summarily ditched a feature that is clearly desireable to many smartphone consumers. That is not an example of a friendly, "good" future.
Depending on your headphones, the adapter might not fit within their case.
Also, if you're like me, you have multiple headphones/earphones (the earphones always with me, since I might not have a bag to carry the headphones). Thirdly, the adapters are not universal, and thus they won't work with all your phones (I always carry two phones with me: personal and work one)
I'm using the adapter for half a year. It's bad. First of all, connection is not stable, any force applied to the connector is degrading both sides of the connection. With headphone jack phone lives happily in the pocket, no issues for like 4 or so years (upgraded phone after that to the phone without 3.5mm connector), and with usb-c it was like a week or two before some interruptions started, changing cable side is possible but does not help much.
I've tried BT too (BT DAC module), it's both much lower sound quality and still has connectivity issues as well (having your body in the way of bluetooth radiowaves somehow is enough)
Man, is no one getting that this is self-deprecating, sarcastic humor? It's not meant to be serious. At all.
They got rid of the jack, after making fun of others getting rid of the jack, and now they're bringing it back. The only way to go about that is to laugh at yourself.
I am a long time iPhone fan and this Android ad made me chuckle. I miss the self-deprecation of Silicon Valley/tech. It's almost nostalgic coming from Google. It reminds me of the Google and other tech companies before they became so successful and so polished.
It's not just the self-deprecation, it's the poking fun at companies along the way. The Pentium II burning ad is a classic. As was the Mac vs PC ads about a decade ago.
The last Apple computer I owned was an Apple IIc. I used a MacBook Pro for work a few times, and just never enjoyed the experience of it. I just completely never got the same level of joy using it than I did when I first got the Apple IIc.
Happy to see phones with headphone jacks are still being produced. I bought the Pixel 4a 5G for the jack back in January thinking it might be my last.
Note: You'll need to watch more than 10 seconds of the video to understand the joke. The whisper voice echoes an English pronunciation of "Aluminum" with "Fancy Pronunciation," dispelling any confusion as to the seriousness of the ad.
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So whether mocking Apple was the goal, the ad pokes at a particular sore spot for many folks.
however they are mocking themselves because their "serious" presentations are worse than apples
Not that I think Google is any better, but it's honestly Apple that mocks Apple the best.
"Privacy"
Their whole image and pretentiousness is surface deep, insincere rubbish.
They are, in fact, literally mocking themselves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUG9qYTJMsI
https://www.youtube.com/c/madebygoogle/videos
So if it's fake, the account has been hacked. And it looks like a lot of effort for a fake!
Mocking Apple by copying its style makes you look hollow.
Even back when Apple was mocking PC users, back in the infamous "Switch" commercials and "Mac vs PC", they didn't just copy the Windows XP style.
Like it or not, Apple has style. It also doesn't have headpone jack, but there must be better way of communicating it than "hehe apple dumb". Especially when Ive is not even there anymore...
If this isn't the peak of empty marketing-speak, I wonder what the next step is. To me that ad is so lame, it's only one step removed from a very slick narration of
"Buy our stuff. It is good stuff. Please buy our stuff."
I'm glad they kept the jack, though.
I don't know much about advertising. Why would they post the video in its current form on YT? It seems likely to be a turn-off to those who would otherwise be enthusiastic about the phone, and fodder for its detractors.
I won't be buying a Pixel, but I can certainly appreciate the fun the marketing team had with this one and I'll take it. :)
* I have many headsets at home, some quite expensive, that I want to use directly, without any dongle hell
* "remove something so that people use a dongle" seems to become Apple's mantra which is really irresponsible given the current situation of our planet
* Apple's initial excuse "we removed the jack but made the phone waterproof" holds no water (pun intended) as other manufacturers were able to do it and keep the jack so it just makes Apple look lame
* people applauding Apple need to realize we had been able to use bluetooth audio also before they removed the jack, so the only result of their decision is the limitation of our freedom of how we use our device
I don't want to compare wired and wireless audio (including things like charging the batteries of BT headphones, the high cost of AirPods etc.) as these are more of a red herring and tangential to the main issue. The removal was clearly a customer-hostile move, that's all.
On a serious note, apple dropped 3.5mm because they acquired beats and wanted to push users to buy their BT headphones.
Some people even haced the first jack-less iphone to prove apple could have fitted in.
I just dont understand why other companies followed apple.
... however, having switched to BT for audio devices myself (receiver, headphones, and of course even cheap cars have had it for years now), I need USB-A on my MacBook a whole lot more than I need a headphone jack on anything, now.
Having said that, I’m probably not going back to Pixel. In 2019, I got an iPhone 7 Plus on EBay for a great deal. I also work on a MacBook and liked it so much I bought a personal one. My AirPods Pro work seamlessly with both the phone and the MacBook. Everything just sort of works out of the box and I don’t have to mess with anything.
If Google can do that and do it better, I might consider switching.
> I don’t have audio on
> I’m not the target customer if they’re after customers who really need a headphone jack.
Prototypical HN comment.
> “a glorious achievement that draws from our past as it propels us into the future.”
Nothing tells that something is stuck in the past like focusing on one part that's no longer common on smartphones. I'd like to see what the ads for Google's wireless Bluetooth buds claim. When Apple removed the headphone jack, Samsung made fun of that too in its marketing campaigns. But guess what? It ditched the headphone jack too (as is usual for Samsung to do when it comes to copying the very things it ridicules Apple for, like user replaceable batteries, for instance).
Within a year, we'll see Google come "full circle" and ditch the headphone jack on smartphones it makes...assuming it's still into making Google branded smartphones by some means. I'm positive this ad will age poorly.
Also, if you're like me, you have multiple headphones/earphones (the earphones always with me, since I might not have a bag to carry the headphones). Thirdly, the adapters are not universal, and thus they won't work with all your phones (I always carry two phones with me: personal and work one)
They got rid of the jack, after making fun of others getting rid of the jack, and now they're bringing it back. The only way to go about that is to laugh at yourself.
This is funny.
The last Apple computer I owned was an Apple IIc. I used a MacBook Pro for work a few times, and just never enjoyed the experience of it. I just completely never got the same level of joy using it than I did when I first got the Apple IIc.
(And anyone who takes this seriously needs to go in for a reality calibration. Their distortion field may be misaligned)
It has the feel of the "With Bob and David" sketch that spoofs Shingy.
Note: You'll need to watch more than 10 seconds of the video to understand the joke. The whisper voice echoes an English pronunciation of "Aluminum" with "Fancy Pronunciation," dispelling any confusion as to the seriousness of the ad.
If it was, the fact a bunch of Yanks are taking it seriously will tickle them pink.