Ask HN: Do you have plans for staying fully remote?

17 points by cardosof ↗ HN
It seems to be the case that a great number of workers do not wish to come back and I'm curious to know if/how HN users are preparing for a 2022 divided between companies returning and companies not returning.

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What is there to plan for? If your company is staying remote, you either have to be a remote worker or find a new job.

If there's an option for either, I personally will be opting to go back to the office. This is primarily out of a concern that I'll be less likely to be promoted if I stay remote. There's some evidence [1][2] that this is the case, and it's just not worth risking despite my enjoyment of remote work.

[1]https://pubsonline.informs.org/doi/10.1287/orsc.2018.1265

[2]https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peopleinwor...

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I was full remote for some time before the pandemic. Remote jobs used to be easy to find in software. Now they're really easy to find.
If my company insists I return to working onsite, I'm gone.

If my company insists on a pay cut in exchange for remaining remote, I'm gone.

If my company insists on having video on all the time so they can watch me, I'm gone.

I'm not negotiating. I own my house and car outright, my property taxes aren't that high, and I could retire now if I wanted. The only reason I'm still on the job is that I can always find a use for more money. However, if my company fucks with me, I'll ghost on the spot. The only reason I haven't is that—to their credit—they've always dealt fairly with me thus far.

Luckily my company fully embraces remote work - indeed I need to get back to getting my house ready to sell so I can move closer to family.
To be honest, I'm not seeing any problems - there are people who want stay remote, and people who want to go back to offices. Companies likewise vary in their desires. We'll all just switch to a new employer if the particular company we work for today doesn't land on the answer we prefer.
They're gonna have us back. But I think I can just kinda come in once in a blue moon and do my own thing.

The only thing I could see is the big corp HR people saying that I need to come in. Then it might get tough.

I have a feeling that being in-office is a competitive advantage for the product and being remote is a competitive advantage for hiring. And also that being in-person amplifies the benefit of being in a good company where being remote lessens the blow of being in a bad company.

I still haven’t decided where I want to fall on those trade-offs but I think being somewhere that embraces remote but tries its best to get everyone together as often as possible might be the best trade-off.

It’s not all or nothing. I’m doing hybrid. Go in maybe once a week or something. I have no desire going full time back in the office.
I've already moved out of the city to a more rural area and don't plan to find another onsite job. It's quiet, the rent is cheap, I don't have to commute.
I will do a hybrid model with one to two office days a week. I'm just starting my professional career in an fairly traditional organization, so it seems kind of mandatory for my own development. Also, I feel like a little bit of regular social interaction with my coworkers would really be beneficial to me
Going back to office as soon as possible. I hate working from home. There is no separation between the two now
A lot of people like remote because of low living costs and no commute. I wish there was a middle ground, where companies put their offices in some nice suburban area, where employees can just bicycle or walk to office.
How about your employer renting space for you at a shared-space type office? Something convenient, in your neighbourhood?
That only makes sense of your colleagues live in the same neighbourhood, no? Otherwise what's the point of walking to the office where you're the only one?
Factories do this. It might be necessary too if you have an office right at the center of an expensive city.
Since being remote for the duration of the covid, I'm ready to put a premium on being remote. I'm willing to compromise on compensation by not having to go to the office. I'm not interested in any "perks" that are tied down to a physical location, or anything that requires me to travel more than 15 minutes one way.
No way going back to office.

- You can choose to work from the place you like, regardless of the local IT market.

- Commute. Nuff said.

- Having your own schedule is magic. Waking up early in morning and doing all important work till noon/lunch is my goal now.

- Boring things suddenly become awesome. Imagine, you work at a really boring enterprise with low load, but the pay you like. You still have to sit 9-5 and watch youtube. Let's move stuff remotely. Do your chores in a couple of hours and your day is done!

- Socializing: being remote encourages to go out to meetups and find your real friends. And you still can visit coworking spaces.

>Having your own schedule is magic. Waking up early in morning and doing all important work till noon/lunch is my goal now

This made me think, why are knowledge workers still tied to the same standard as the traditional factory worker. Inputs are not as connected to outputs with knowledge work as they are with assembly lines etc.