Notch's Livestream for Ludum Dare 21 (livestream.com)
The stream has started, but notch hasn't begun coding yet at the time of this writing. Those of you who don't know what Ludum Dare is, can check their website at http://ludumdare.com/ - but TL;DR: rapid game dev competition, in 48 hours - Notch (maker of Minecraft) is streaming his participation this year.
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[ 4.5 ms ] story [ 170 ms ] threadThose of you who don't know what Ludum Dare is, can check their website at http://ludumdare.com/ - but TL;DR: rapid game dev competition, in 48 hours - Notch (maker of Minecraft) is streaming his participation this year.
[1] http://vimeo.com/7762511
The concept of editing the game loop code while the game is still running is new to me (even though apparently this has been around for a long time).
I wonder who would pay to watch Carmack and others code on a regular basis..
Going to keep it on the secondary monitor.
She DJs a bunch of different internet radio programs. Gotta go find which one it is. :)
We were filmed all the 24h via webcam and all our screens were recorded also via VNC and inside the OpenExpo, one could watch us coding live.
I don't really find much records of it though but here are two videos (sadly not the VNC records):
http://www.etoy.com/blog/archive/2008/09/26/hackontest.html
http://technocrat.net/video/Hackontest/2.mpg
I find it very instructive to actually watch other people coding.
It's particularly well suited for things like a game loop or a server, because it works best (or rather usually, only) when the code you're editing is not on the stack.
There are various plans, but 17000 viewer hours at 3hours per dollar ish? Not cheap.
edit: it's more like $8000-15,000 (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2907135)
17,000 * $0.27 = $4590!
That seems crazy to me, we all want to watch this and it's costing him money to do us that favor? Seemingly he's also driving traffic to livestream, is it because he has no ads or something?
he mentions that he found streaming on justin.tv would also be too expensive.
i for one would pay to have famous coders streaming in the background while i code myself.
Also on TwitchTV. We reached out.
Apparently he had racked up 17,000 viewer hours so far and said the cost was getting way out of hand. I'm trying to see how much that is going to cost him.
It would be cool if we could get Livestream to sponsor him perhaps as a way to promote their service?
Enter "mojang" there to see the cost.
The cost estimator basically says the incremental cost is $0.27/hour. That's pretty expensive for what is, in this case, basically bare streaming infrastructure (livestream adds some value, but not much for this particular use case).
The essential functionality could be easily replicated on e.g. Amazon EC2 at less than half, maybe even 1/3rd, the incremental cost even as a one-off thing.
Even now, as a not-particularly-wealthy person, I'm often willing to pay extra for convenience, but I just don't see ever being willing to pay 3x the cost of doing it myself for a non-mission-critical application, especially when there are even cheaper options like twitch.
Since we already have a massive Minecraft casting community, I think it's a logical place for him to do it: http://twitch.tv/directory/Minecraft
Did they just kick him off? Cause I didn't hear him say anything about taking the stream offline.
via twitter
Edit: Seems like many people having problems with it, but Notch is sticking with it. Would be awesome if the Justin.tv/Twitch.tv crew can jump in and help!
There is just one peering video hoster, when can users stream on Youtube?
http://www.twitch.tv/realnotch
Edit: Delete your cookies/privatewindow and go there with the twitch domain above now it works.
https://twitter.com/#!/ludumdare