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An expert testified that apple uses interpolation to enhance and upscale images. That interpolation did not alter the video in a substantial way. The lawyer was mentioning Apple 3d photo enhancement. Some of you that are laughing just don't realize Apple has deepfakes type software installed on iphones.
How in the world did a judge actually allow this argument to go forward? This is malpractice.
Maybe he remembered hearing the word logarithms from high school math and thought “oh yes this fellow knows what he’s talking about, that’s an 11th grade word, I remember that from the Reagan years”
Judges can't commit malpractice, they do not represent anyone.
I meant on the lawyer's part for making the argument in the first place. The judge is clearly not doing a good job here either though.
How is the judge clearly not doing a job? Instead of vague insinuations please provide a specific citation on how the judge has violated the rules of evidence for this exhibit.
It'd be admissible because it impeaches Rittenhouse's testimony from that day. Also, hard to see how you could watch the video of the judge and think he's being reasonable.
Perhaps the judge had read articles in the past about upsampling gone wrong (here's one that's also from the verge- https://www.theverge.com/21298762/face-depixelizer-ai-machin...). If the prosecution wanted to zoom in to show something that wasn't visible on the big TV, I think it's reasonable to be worried that whatever they want to show would be thrown off by sharpening algorithms or the rounding that happens when you blow up 97 pixels of video onto a 1920px screen
Sure, but the lawyer confused algorithm for logarithm. Apparently (eyeroll) an expert needs to be brought in to explain to them that normal video zooming isn't going to cause AI-enabled upsampling.
Do you know what algorithm they use? Even non-ai algos like nearest neighbor vs bicubic can have drastically different outputs
this case is actually pretty interesting, since there are definitely more and more black box algorithms running on photo taking apps to enhance them.

We globally know what they're doing but i remember very fondly a CS teacher in the 90s telling us how military refused to use anything based on neural nets because results were unprovables.

This is an insidious argument because there's a grain of truth in it. Photos/videos are heavily post-processed by Apples 'Neural engine' (https://github.com/hollance/neural-engine) running on the Bionic chips, but this is done at the time of recording.

Zooming the video to play it to the jury would just be simple linear scaling, and could be done on any device capable of playing & scaling a video. For example, the zoom or crop functions in VLC.

> have artificial intelligence in them that allow things to be viewed through three-dimensions and logarithms

a dangerous mix of incoherent buzzwords that's nearly correct.

“Apple’s logarithms” faking footage is about the most crackpot thing I’ve heard all week. The fact a judge let this pass is incredible.
Actual title: Judge buys Rittenhouse lawyer’s inane argument that Apple’s pinch-to-zoom manipulates footage
True: For image CAPTURE on portable devices a lot of ML-based image processing is done.

Unknown but unlikely: video PLAYBACK on iPad to use AI upscaling. A Google search does not provide a definitive answer to this, but in all likelihood linear upscaling is used. AI-based upscaling does exist though, look at the many plugins for MPV for instance. Surely, if Apple has implemented this in Quicktime video player it would be all over their marketing.

This is a shit article by a lazy reporter who doesn't understand the rules of evidence in criminal trials. The judge is simply applying precedent here. Digital zoom does involve some manipulation of the original image. That manipulation is probably fine, but if the prosecution wants to introduce that evidence then they need to also provide an expert witness who can testify to that effect. If the prosecution failed to do so then they're incompetent and failed to do the necessary trial preparation.