Ask HN: What are some must read books?

66 points by melonbar ↗ HN
Life is too short to read crummy books. So after reading the review on Blade Runner 2049 which touched on PKD and Nabokov I have decided get Pale Fire. I am curious what you would recommend on top of that (I was also planning to get A Confederacy of Dunces). That said, take a penny leave a penny, if you haven’t read A Supposedly Fun Thing I’ll Never Do Again or Gibsons’ Neuromancer, try and make time. They’re exquisite!

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*The review was a popular post on HN last night for anyone who has not read it, I rather enjoyed it :)
The True Believer by Eric Hoffer.

Anytime I hear about a new movement or school of thought I go back to that

Awesome, this sounds super interesting, thanks!
Thanks for the recommendations. I’m feeling old, so I’ll add:

Edith Grossman’s translation of Don Quixote (1609! The more things change, the more they stay the same)

Frankenstein, by Mary Shelley (I thought I knew the story until I actually read the book—whoah, that opened my eyes to our relationship with technology and industry and how we use energy)

Dracula, by Bram Stoker (from Blindboy’s podcast episode “Paddy Dracula” I learned Stoker is from Dublin, son of a Protestant mother who told him stories, bedridden until seven years old, about the horrors of cholera)

Moby Dick, by Herman Melville (further awareness of how we convert resources, this time before petrol, and for the descriptions of sea life and human relationships)

For background, I’m also into contemporary sci-fi and fantasy and would have an easier time going without electricity than without books, unless I was part of a community that carried on storytelling traditions.

Two others: Braiding Sweetgrass, by Robin Wall Kimmerer, and Finding the Mother Tree, by Suzanne Simard, both about ecology and reciprocity, guiding how I garden, parent, and relate to the bleeding edge of life in general.

Wow thank you for taking the time to write this list I really appreciate it! I have always wanted to read Don Quixote but had trouble figuring out which translation. This is awesome I will for sure be getting that one and perhaps some others. Have a great Monday.
To your recommendations of Mary Shelley's Frankenstein and Bram Stoker's Dracula, I'd add Gaston Leroux's The Phantom of the Opera. That is by far my most favorite of the classic "monster" books.
> Frankenstein, by Mary Shelley (I thought I knew the story until I actually read the book—whoah, that opened my eyes to our relationship with technology and industry and how we use energy)

Can confirm, the novel is very unlike every film adaptation I'm aware of. It also, incredibly, hits its themes even harder than those do.

Don Quixote is 900 pages of gut-busting humor that will ruin most comedy for you. And Moby Dick was an incredible read (if you're into audiobooks, Anthony Heald is the perfect narrator for Moby Dick IMO).

Will have to check out the others!

  Through the lacings of the leaves, the great sun seemed a flying shuttle weaving the unwearied verdure. Oh, busy weaver! unseen weaver!--pause!--one word!--whither flows the fabric? what palace may it deck? wherefore all these ceaseless toilings? Speak, weaver!
Love Moby Dick
Just to add a counter opinion: I found Moby Dick a real slog to get through

It has very detailed descriptions of whaling which I didn't find interesting

I second this 100%. I found Moby Dick extremely tedious and mostly boring except for a few highlights here and there. And as the old saying goes "Melville never met a run-on sentence he didn't love."
The Brothers Karamazov. It really is as good as it's reputation would make you think

It's fascinating to read a novel written 200 years ago in a country completely unlike mine, but see so many traits and characters that I know and have met in my life today. Dostoevsky has this un-nerving ability to see through people like they are transparent, and show their innermost depth in a few sentences

The Master and Margarita, Burgin/O'Connor translation
It's funny how people recommend Master and Margarita, I found it unbearably difficult to read. The constant jumps between story lines (if I recall correctly) threw me off. Would absolutely avoid, but YMMV.
Chaos by James Gleick

The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov

You really need to know your Russian history to really appreciate and get Master and Margherita. You probably know enough to read Animal Farm but M+M is Russian, capital R.
Someone in an HN comment already said this and they suggested reading it with a companion book, so I collected one.

I haven't started reading it yet.

Oh I don't know the entire premise is brilliant and hilarious from the get-go: Devil arrives in Moscow one morning with all his pals, proceeds to give everyone everything they want like Father Christmas, and it's a shit-show, I love it :)

I'm sure there's layers but I think most adults will appreciate the portrayal of human vice and vanity :)

The power and the glory by Graham Greene. Crime and punishment by Dostoevsky.
Non-violent Communication - One of my top 5 books easily. Changed how I think about the language we use in everyday communication with other people, and more importantly, the language I use with myself.
+1

Despite its unfortunate mis-titling, it's a fantastic book.

Which ones would make your other spots for top-5 or even top-10?
Off the top of my head...

- Snow Crash - Neal Stephenson: it has its flaws but is still a rocket ride through a not-so-farfetched cyberpunk dystopia. I love the tongue-in-cheek nature of it as well "Hiro Protagonist" being the main character :D

- Extreme Ownership - Jocko Willink and Leif Babin: a different take on leadership than I've read previously, once you get through the first couple bits on "we're SEALs and badass" sort of stuff there's some amazingly good leadership qualities on display.

- Every Tool's a Hammer - Adam Savage: As a weekend warrior maker, this book speaks to my soul. It gives my brain permission to make mistakes and learn in a way that few others have.

- Michael Pollan: pretty much anything written by him has wit, intelligence, research, practical experience, etc. Love his writer's voice and most of his audiobooks seem to be read by him, a fun bonus!

Thanks a bunch.

I already have read Cryptonomicon, and I have Seveneves and Snow Crash sitting on my shelf.

I will give the others a try.

A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century, by Barbara Tuchman (more famously known for the Guns of August).

Nonfiction, but really entertaining. A must read because it's insightful on how different but similar human beings can get. It's more than just a history imo. Also a period of European history people think is important, but rarely read up on.

I actually just tried this out last month and thought it was a terrific book, but it was just too long and detailed to hold my interest. I found myself struggling to get through it and finally returned it to the library half-read.

So, would recommend depending on the individual - if you know you have an appetite for thick and detailed history books, this one is great. A sardonic and entertaining writing style for sure.

People take issue with them, but picking something off Adler's or Harvard's (five-foot-shelf) or Bloom's Great Books lists will almost never lead you wrong.

But, here we go anyway (and yeah, some of these are just off those lists):

1) Shakespeare's big four tragedies are, in fact, out-fucking-standing. Hamlet, King Lear, Othello, Macbeth. IMO Hamlet reads the best of those. Any would be fine to watch, as well, and may be better that way. The language, especially, is easier to understand when performed, because you have body language, tone, and other context to work with.

2) Gilgamesh. I like Mitchell's edition.

3) The Odyssey. Iliad's a bit of a bore, but with a few incredible scenes that really stick with you. The Odyssey, though, is great. Screw the haters, even the "Telemachy" portion is good.

4) Revolutionary Road by Yates, for a certain kind of struggle with identity & purpose that I suspect will resonate and provide a useful mirror for lots of folks on here.

5) Woolf's To the Lighthouse is probably my favorite book, so I'll throw that on here.

6) The 20th century gave us tons of essayists (some of whom also wrote novels and such) who are great reads. Orwell, C.S. Lewis, and Forster all come to mind.

7) Maugham wrote a lot of novels, and most of them are well worth a read.

8) Farmer's Riverworld series are probably my favorite very dumb books.

I've never read Shakespeare but so I'm curious to hear what you think makes it outstanding? I've tried reading a bit before but I was weighed down by words and phrases that we no longer use and found myself losing the meaning.
> I was weighed down by words and phrases that we no longer use and found myself losing the meaning.

I have the same problem. I found a used physical copy of "No Fear Shakespeare - Macbeth" to be very helpful. On the left page is the original text, on the right page is are notes and a translation. I was able to get through the book and understand it.

You can access online here: https://www.sparknotes.com/shakespeare/

> what you think makes it outstanding?

I'm not the original commenter, so speaking for myself only. I would say the prose is very poetic and has a certain magical quality to it.

The language takes some getting used to. Watching a performance is easier than reading it, since (again) you have the context of the actor's physical performance, delivery, the setting of the scene, et c., to inform your understanding. Another thing is that often his plays rely on some historical understanding for full effect. For example, most people reading the beginning of Hamlet might not fully grasp what's going on, while someone with a good understanding of feudal politics (or anyone who's played much Crusader Kings) will be going "oh shit, this is really bad". This is where something like Asimov's guide to Shakespeare, or any number of free online lectures about the plays, can be helpful.

As for what's great:

1) Masterful plotting, leaving just enough up to the audience to figure out (and, more often than not, leveraging that for ironic purposes).

2) Outstanding characterization.

3) A hard-to-pin-down quality that makes relating episodes, characters, and exchanges in his plays to real life the most natural thing in the world. There's a reason we've ended up with so many of his characters and phrases as parts of the English language itself.

For non-Americans, this is basically the US high school required reading list.
I think we read abridgments of certain episodes from The Odyssey a couple different years, but never the whole thing. AFAIK Shakesepeare's Big Four are rarely all covered in high school. Maybe one of them will be. Romeo and Juliet is much more popular, for whatever reason—I think it's considered easier, and maybe curriculum designers think kids will relate better to a story of young love. IIRC the only one of the Big Four we read in my high school was Macbeth, and I took all the extra English classes possible, starting in 7th grade.

I don't think Gilgamesh was covered at all. Yates, Maugham, Farmer, or Forster are certainly not commonly assigned in US high schools. Woolf, maybe, and if so, yeah, it'll probably be To the Lighthouse. Orwell, yes, but mainly for Animal Farm and maybe 1984, not his essays. I guess there might be some schools that assign C.S. Lewis, but I doubt it's common.

Yes, The Odyssey is great (even if Telemachus is an entitled twit). The Iliad is great if very straightforward. The Aeneid is great, well the first half is, but like Romeo and Juliet after Mercutio dies, The Aeneid flags after Dido does the thing that she does.
"Clochemerle-en-Beaujolais" is hilarious. Don't know if it has been translated.

"Android Karenina" is a two-in-one deal.

Remember to keep the Hacker in Hacker News boomers!

One of my favorites: Violent Python: A cookbook for hackers, penetration testers, and security analysts.

This is the book that really gave me the knowledge i needed to begin scratching that itch we all get about computers and their secrets.

the invincible by lem

Very short to the point hard sci-fi.

Made me realise how sometimes some books/stories are dragged out and milked into oblivion.

Surprisingly, didn't find 'The hitchhikers guide to the galaxy' in this list. Must read !
Non-fiction :

The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes

A fascinating and intimate history about the people who developed particle physics and how it led to the atomic age. It really highlights what the scientific mindset is like.

Fiction :

Expeditionary Force series of books by Craig Alanson

I'm 12 books into this relatively new series and it is still going strong. If you like sci-fi and geopolitical dramas, this is the series for you.

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I will throw The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series out there. It was good entertainment that challenged some of my notions about human nature. Nothing super profound but just enough to remain engaging beyond typical pop literature.
So, not a must read book?
It is a good book but I would not call it a must read for everyone. If you enjoy mysteries and fiction then yes. If you are looking for profound and deep introspection, then no.
Some of my favorite fiction books and short story collections in no particular order:

1) Collected Fictions by Borges

2) The Complete Stories of Franz Kafka

3) The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov

4) Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison

5) 9 Stories by J.D. Salinger

6) 60 Stories by Donald Barthelme

7) 100 Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez

8) The Sound and the Fury by William Faulkner

> 5) 9 Stories by J.D. Salinger

I'd encourage anyone who was put off by The Catcher in the Rye not to dismiss Salinger's other work, and agree that this is the one to read, if you're only going to read one (other) volume of his.

Going bit ahead of time, since still reading the last book, but Expanse series by James S. A. Corey. It has it ups and downs, but mostly ups. I really like the pace, good balance between opening up characters and story/world building. First 2 books can be read without going full on with all 9.
I don't know about must-read but here are my top 5 books:

- Brave New World, Aldous Huxley

- Anna Karenina, Lev Tolstoy

- Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, Robert Pirsig

- Manufacturing Consent, Noam Chomsky

- Dune, Frank Herbert

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance is a vastly underrated book. It was decades ahead of its time.
The prose in Gatsby is so good. Every time I read it, I’m newly impressed.
I'm wary of labels such as "must read" - but a couple of books I'm glad I read:

"Dahlgren" by Samuel Delaney (and most everything else I've read by him as well).

"Earthsea" by Ursula LeGuin - and "Powers".

"Diamond Age" by Neal Stephenson.

"Holy Fire" by Bruce Sterling (I also enjoyed Islands in the Net, Zenith Angle and Schismatrix).

"Foundation" trilogy + prequel by Isaac Asimov.

"Brave New World", Aldous Huxley.

"Deepness in the Sky" / "Fire Upon the Deep" by Vernor Vinge.

"Something wicked this way comes" by Ray Bradbury.

And a couple of comics/visual novels:

"V for Vendetta" and "Watchmen" by Alan Moore (David Lloyd/ Tony Weare and Dave Gibbons / John Higgins).

Dave Sims: "Cerebus" (I don't think I've finished this yet, but the first ten volumes or so is.. Something else).

Fair enough haha, thanks this is a great list, Foundation has always been something I wanted to read.
I was pleasantly stunned when I recently re-read Foundation - after reading them in junior high school, some 25 years ago. I actually remembered most of the characters (note, there's pretty much a protagonist per chapter and the original trilogy spans... 10? thousand years).

On a different note - Hurki Murakami's non-fictional account of the Tokyo subway gas attack "Underground" is a harrowing, but rewarding read. And while tragic, "Norwegian Wood" is lighter, and also great (I actually think his best book among those I've read is "South of the Border" - in a similar sense that "The great Gatsby" is good (unsurprising as Murakami translated Scott Fitzgerald).

https://www.cupblog.org/2013/05/07/haruki-murakami-on-transl...

The Count of Monte Cristo - Alexandre Dumas
The Three Musketeers books are also good fun.
Meditations by Marcus Aurelius is as timeless as ever.
One of my all time favorites!
The ideas are timeless but the translated prose can feel dated. The Gregory Hays translation though is very readable.