I like Mastodon but it is a different experience than Twitter. I follow non-famous people with my interests on Mastodon and famous tech people with my interests on Twitter. It is almost like the two services are complementary.
I think this is precisely a scenario that suits Mastodon.
Users will organically flock to instances close to their interests. Celebrities will surely have their own instances and niche interests/non-famous people will have their own (to reduce the noise). And users will have the ability to follow whichever they want (including both).
Guess I should reopen Mastodon and see what's up there... annoying how if you don't visit for a while though it doesn't have your timeline ready for it... it makes sense for efficiency but it is weird.
Even if Mastodon grows exponentially and destroys Twitter completely and Musk’s investment goes to zero…he still wins by having destroyed the cesspool of twitter and pushing people to a decentralized platform.
Mastodon has no stocks. Mastodon is an open source project funded by donations.
You can run a Mastodon server of your very own, with your own rules. You can’t do that with Twitter. You can even do things like block posts from free speech absolutist servers if you don’t want to have an environment free of any decorum like noted pedo guy Musk will probably be pushing for.
About 0.004% of twitter’s monthly active users switched to mastadoon.social. Enough to write a news article I guess, but it doesn’t represent any sort of big society wide shift
Agreed - I also looked into Mastadon a few years ago when I thought Twitter was too politically run and found it confusing, didn’t know what to join, etc. A few tech savvy folks will do it but most will leave confused like me and go back to twitter.
After 6+ years and this is the result. That is a complete slow-moving failure for Mastodon and somehow, this is 'news' when 0.004% of Twitter's monthly actives switched to Mastodon.
Is this a new low in frivolous, mediocre and low quality tech articles?
You might as well move your chair 1 metre forwards and write an article declaring that you are more closer to the Sun than the 0.00000001% of other people.
yeah, good job. i recently installed pleroma (which is similar to mastodon but less resource hungry) and currently its just now 3 family members. thats all. this is a great thing because i can invite and deny invitation to anyone in the family and just the family so we are not exposed to the cesspool that is facebook/twitter.
i run the server so i have to keep it updated, pay for hosting but it is still a good investment. looking at backblaze b2 pricing, if i move to that, my media hosting costs would still be miniscule compared to the benefit i get from literally owning this own piece of internet
Especially considering how Mastodon/fediverse has a considerable history of hosting extremist content. Seeing people complain about "liberals afraid of free speech" have obviously never visited it before...
This will end up like every other mass migration away from social media platforms. Remember when everyone was headed to Diaspora after Facebook did something unpalatable for users? Remember the “1,000,000 strong for the old Facebook” groups? It never works. Social media’s power is in its momentum.
Facebook is shrinking [1]. It may not happen instantly because of these big dramatic events, but I think bad user experiences have a cumulative effect. And I expect it's very hard to reverse once it gets started.
> Remember when everyone was headed to Diaspora after Facebook did something unpalatable for users? Remember the “1,000,000 strong for the old Facebook” groups? It never works. Social media’s power is in its momentum.
Not to mention: media relations, community management & risk exposure are all really really hard problems. Hard problems that an entity like twitter has to sink huge effort into just to be bad at it.
Musk brings absolutely nothing to the table in any of these arenas and has been publicly terrible at at least two of them.
The internet is full of agendas, opinions and viewpoints. All this move shows is that there's also at least one idiot will to watch 45billion evaporate.
Ok, ok, it's Elon. So he's willing to talk about it and anything substantiative coming out of this will probably arrive just after full autonomous self driving vehicles.
Wanna bet Elon will try to shut down the account tracking his flights?
To think this is about freedom of speech is naive. This is about restricting and allowing different speech, but I can promisee you it'll be just as limited.
People are looking for alternatives because they don't like the idea of their speech being controlled by an unstable manchild that calls people that point out his ideas are bad "pedo"
You are right - the status quo right now with things like suspending people because they think biological males shouldn’t compete with biological females is obviously the best way to go. I mean why be allowed to have an opinion on something?
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 72.8 ms ] threadUsers will organically flock to instances close to their interests. Celebrities will surely have their own instances and niche interests/non-famous people will have their own (to reduce the noise). And users will have the ability to follow whichever they want (including both).
What's the difference, from a principle perspective, from a private Twitter and Mastodon?
You can run a Mastodon server of your very own, with your own rules. You can’t do that with Twitter. You can even do things like block posts from free speech absolutist servers if you don’t want to have an environment free of any decorum like noted pedo guy Musk will probably be pushing for.
Twitter has 217 million daily active users.
Mastodon has about 250,000 monthly active users out of 3 million registered users, according to Rochko’s estimates.
.004% of twitter’s monthly active users switched
This article seems like a bit fluff to make Elon look bad.
Is this a new low in frivolous, mediocre and low quality tech articles?
You might as well move your chair 1 metre forwards and write an article declaring that you are more closer to the Sun than the 0.00000001% of other people.
i run the server so i have to keep it updated, pay for hosting but it is still a good investment. looking at backblaze b2 pricing, if i move to that, my media hosting costs would still be miniscule compared to the benefit i get from literally owning this own piece of internet
> as far as I can tell because there's twice as many people using it at the same time as ever have
https://mastodon.social/@Gargron/108193107554878363
[1] https://www.vox.com/recode/2022/2/2/22915110/facebook-meta-u...
I guess you don't remember Digg?
Weird times.
Musk brings absolutely nothing to the table in any of these arenas and has been publicly terrible at at least two of them.
The internet is full of agendas, opinions and viewpoints. All this move shows is that there's also at least one idiot will to watch 45billion evaporate.
Ok, ok, it's Elon. So he's willing to talk about it and anything substantiative coming out of this will probably arrive just after full autonomous self driving vehicles.
To think this is about freedom of speech is naive. This is about restricting and allowing different speech, but I can promisee you it'll be just as limited.
People are looking for alternatives because they don't like the idea of their speech being controlled by an unstable manchild that calls people that point out his ideas are bad "pedo"
I did and am still missing the interaction with 98% of my contacts.