> Its exact location was unknown for more than a century, but scientists have now found the wreck of the Mesaba by using multibeam sonar. The offshore surveying tool uses sound waves to enable seabed mapping in such detail that the superstructure can be revealed on sonar images, allowing researchers at Bangor University and Bournemouth University in the UK to positively identify the shipwreck in the Irish Sea.
TIL, the radar is detailed enough to ID the ships without using a submarine.
Interesting idea, though I suspect a ship of that size didn’t break up as much as MH370 probably did. This would make detection harder since the remaining pieces would be much smaller.
Yes. You have to be searching the area where the plane crashed though. So far they have only searched the area where the plane did not crash. Uncertainty in the final minutes of flight have contributed to making the job of locating any wreckage very difficult. The ocean is large and deep and finding something as small as a passenger jet is hard unless you can narrow the search area.
Bits of MH370 have been retrieved from Madagascar beaches. The body of the plane itself may have drifted many kilometers away from the point of impact as it sank but it doesn't matter since we have no idea where it first fell other than a general "southern Indian ocean"
> The Mesaba continued as a merchant ship until it was torpedoed by a German submarine while in convoy in 1918. Twenty people, including the ship's commander, died.
For some reason I read the title thinking that both ships sank that night. Apparently this one survived until WW1.
"tried to warn" seems a bit misleading to me. It seems that it successfully warned the Titanic, as did several other ships, but the Titanic didn't do anything with the warnings. It maintained full speed per standard practice, believing that ice formed little danger to large vessels (per Wikipedia, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Titanic).
Geez, why can't the article use the proper term "the bridge" instead of/that it could explain as "the main control center of the ship". I remember reading that to be readable to the average American, the news is written in fifth grade level English. In this case, it shows.
> The merchant vessel SS Mesaba was crossing the Atlantic in April 1912 and sent a wireless message to the Titanic but its warning never reached the bridge.
A little Titanic factoid:
The novella "Wreck of the Titan" written by Morgan Robertson and published as Futility in 1898, and revised as The Wreck of the Titan in 1912. It features a fictional British ocean liner Titan that sinks in the North Atlantic after striking an iceberg. The Titan and its sinking are famous for similarities to the passenger ship RMS Titanic and its sinking 14 years later.
"Biggest ship in the world" title
Written before the RMS Titanic was even conceptualized
The fictional ship sank in April in the North Atlantic 400 miles far away from Newfoundland, and there were not enough lifeboats for all the passengers. (all same as Titanic)
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[ 4.0 ms ] story [ 101 ms ] threadTIL, the radar is detailed enough to ID the ships without using a submarine.
(for the benefit of anyone who doesn't get how great a reference this is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgrX7uOZqHI)
Air France plane went down. They know where it went down and it still took them 2 years to locate it.
The ocean is a HUGE place.
This clearly shows demonstrates that no one can ever say that you don't look good.
You're definitely a good looker.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOjVq5szAoU
The range of sonars is quite limited and the ocean is huge. There's really no point in searching unless you have a good starting point.
Sonar, not radar.
There are other types of sonar which produce good images, such as side-scan sonar:
https://www.shipwreckworld.com/articles/side-scan-sonar-imag...
Even Garmin makes them for ridiculously low prices (compared to what I remembered from the 1990s).
For some reason I read the title thinking that both ships sank that night. Apparently this one survived until WW1.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violet_Jessop
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_John_Priest
Recipient “didn’t want to hear it”: https://news.yahoo.com/us-intelligence-tried-warn-ukraine-10...
Unfortunately, it’s also used when the message never makes it to the recipient: https://www.nj.com/union/2022/05/nj-cop-tried-to-warn-gang-m...
> The merchant vessel SS Mesaba was crossing the Atlantic in April 1912 and sent a wireless message to the Titanic but its warning never reached the bridge.
and included the multibeam sidescan image.
[BBC] https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-63039737
Here's their article on the matter:
https://www.bangor.ac.uk/news/09/finding-the-ship-that-sent-...
"Biggest ship in the world" title
Written before the RMS Titanic was even conceptualized
The fictional ship sank in April in the North Atlantic 400 miles far away from Newfoundland, and there were not enough lifeboats for all the passengers. (all same as Titanic)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wreck_of_the_Titan:_Or,_Fu...