I'm Peter Roberts, immigration attorney who does work for YC and startups. AMA
I'll be here for the next 2-3 hours and then after a break of about 1 hour for another 2-3 hours. As usual, there are many possible topics and I'll be guided by whatever you're concerned with. Please remember that I can't provide legal advice on specific cases for obvious liability reasons because I won't have access to all the facts. Please stick to a factual discussion in your questions and comments and I'll try to do the same in my answers!
Previous threads we've done: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=proberts.
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[ 3.0 ms ] story [ 257 ms ] threadI want to take part in Iceland's long term remote worker visa to visit for 6 months
HR thinks this may be a tax liability, but the duration is explicitly less than long enough to be considered a tax resident
Is there an issue with the large corp having an office in Iceland or is HR being overly cautious?
(extra detail I don't think should matter: I'm Canadian, company is American)
Assuming your large corp / HR are friendly, they might even be willing to switch to a contractor relation (depending on the juristiction this might not be allowed, e.g. Germany is very tough on contractors as employees).
This prevents the biggest problem of large corporates. Being in the country with employees might make you a 'permanent establishment' and therefore liable for local tax law.
Worth looking into Estonia's e-residency program and suppliers like xolo.io (The leap product, not the Go product).
Any specifics on this?
Looks like green cards may already lift the limitations, my bad.
Sometime, in the future, if I can have $800K to spare, then will go for EB-5. Although, this may take about a decade.
rather than London, ON, Canada ? :) I hear it's a lovely town.
Btw 100 years for a green card? I don't think Chinese citizens have such a long wait although Indians have to wait a long time.
While it sucks for an individual from a high-emigration country, if one of the goals of immigration policy is greater diversity, than country-based discrimination is a fair solution.
If a startup is incorporated in one of the states from overseas, can founders be eligible for work-visas (I remember reading that an investment of more than USD500K may allow eligibility for some visas (F1?) but don't know if this is the case for startups, and besides, there were some requirements in terms of jobs creation if I remember well).
Thanks.
2. If, for some reason (layoffs, company dissapears, etc.) the whole green card process is not finished, then it means that i will not be able to get a new TN visa correct?
How do they judge the thing, by the content of your phone or computer?
(It might help to say I am envisaging a similar AMA for a (different) partner who might explain pre-money valuations or best way to use SAFE or ways to find investors. I think I am interested in the general best practise if that makes sense?)
I work for a US startup, but based in the UK (hired via an intermediary like Deel/Remote.com). At this point in time, are there any avenues to joining my colleagues in the US other than waiting for the H1B application window next year?
Also, what options do I have to grow a project while I work full-time?
The fact I can't earn income from alternative work is a huge demotivator from starting anything for me. I won't know if I want to work full-time on a startup I found unless I see MRR first.
1) What is the threshold for extraordinary? How is extraordinary established?
2) Is there a quota on the number of visas issued per year? Related, is there a quota on the number of visas per country of birth?
1) For O1 it's checking the boxes - one paper or one award is the same as 10 papers or 10 awards. Even for non-technical people where papers aren't really a thing, an article about a company was written in a high-profile website and that persons name was mentioned. He got an O1. I also know a strong competitive programmer (but no other achievements of value) who got it - presumably his masters thesis from 3-rd tier uni in Eastern Europe was used as "published research". So if you can work on checking the boxes - getting a patent / a published paper / an article about you in a reputable venue, you can get an O1. You just need 3 out of 9 or 10. So threshold is achievable if you work on it.
2) No.
Getting a paper published seems a relatively low bar - first year PhD students manage it just fine, someone working in industry should be ok doing it.
* It takes work to get those 3 boxes unless you already have them - so a typical contractor from Infosys or EPAM won't have them. For H1B you just apply. * H1B is cheaper (fixed fees vs 5-10k to prep O1 application) * H1B is actually in many ways a better visa! It's 3 years with 3 years extension, O1s are shorter, so for 6 years you'd have to do more than one renewal. H1B allows you to switch companies rather easily, for O1 you'd have to apply again.
So for some people the strategy is do H1B and if that fails (lottery), do O1 instead.
We hired a bunch of machinists. This guy was worth his weight in gold and nobody ever asked "why did you bother to bring in someone from another country?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bG5VOXR86w0
What can technologists do to help out the legal field, specifically in immigration land?
Is there something missing in the legal field that makes you think "this is 2022, this should be easier"?
Say a US employer has about 1000 employees who are all residing in the US (so payroll is only set up to handle US taxes and so forth) because it was all commuters until the pandemic. Now there are many remote employees, and that won't change (i.e., no "return to office" unwinding of remote arrangements) so some are starting to move across the country. No problem.
When a remote employee says they're starting the process of moving to Canada and obtaining Canadian citizenship and prefers to keep their current job, how much effort goes into achieving that on the employer's side? Is it typical to convert their role from employee to contractor as a way to minimize the headache until there are many such employees?
There is risk in misclassifying employees as contractors in many countries.
Thank you very much
As per the handbook (https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-12-part-d-chapter...):
> An officer must review extended or frequent absences from the United States to determine whether an applicant has met the burden of establishing that he or she has maintained LPR status. This applies regardless of length of time or if the applicant was permitted to return to the United States as an LPR at the port of entry after the absence.
So even if you risk it it'll still reflect poorly during naturalisation.
It's an extremely tough category.
https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-6-part-f-chapter-...
The NIW specifically waives the PERM, but everything else is basically the same. There's 2 parts:
- Advanced degree (ie masters or PhD) or exceptional ability, more specifically 3 of the following 6:
> An official academic record showing that the beneficiary has a degree, diploma, certificate, or similar award from a college, university, school, or other institution of learning relating to the area of exceptional ability;
> Evidence in the form of letter(s) from current or former employer(s) showing that the beneficiary has at least 10 years of full-time experience in the occupation in which he or she is being sought;
> A license to practice the profession or certification for a particular profession or occupation;
> Evidence that the beneficiary has commanded a salary or other remuneration for services that demonstrates exceptional ability. (To satisfy this criterion, the evidence must show that the beneficiary has commanded a salary or remuneration for services that is indicative of his or her claimed exceptional ability relative to others working in the field);
> Evidence of membership in professional associations; and
> Evidence of recognition for achievements and significant contributions to the industry or field by peers, governmental entities, or professional or business organizations.
For you patent + salary + winning competitions is probably good enough.
- Waiver is in the "national interest" of the US, which has 3 prongs:
> The person’s proposed endeavor has both substantial merit and national importance;
This may be the hardest portion for you. To quote the manual:
> In determining national importance, the officer’s analysis should focus on what the beneficiary will be doing rather than the specific occupational classification ... if the evidence of record demonstrates that the person’s proposed endeavor has the significant potential to broadly enhance societal welfare or cultural or artistic enrichment, or to contribute to the advancement of a valuable technology or field of study, it may rise to the level of national importance
Depending on what you and your startup does, this may either be very hard or very easy. You have to show that you'll be working on something that "may rise to the level of national importance", which hopefully your startup is doing.
> The person is well positioned to advance the proposed endeavor; and
You're already working as an engineer, presumably doing the thing you said you'll do in prong 1. A freebie.
> On balance, it would be beneficial to the United States to waive the job offer and thus the permanent labor certification requirements.
This also has 3 factors:
> The impracticality of a labor certification application;
> The benefit to the United States from the prospective noncitizen’s contributions, even if other U.S. workers were also available; and
> The national interest in the person’s contributions is sufficiently urgent, such as U.S. competitiveness in STEM fields.
Usually STEM people get through on the 2nd or 3rd part, especially if the factors in prongs 1 and 2 are good enough.
If I were you, I would focus your letters on the national importance of what you're doing and on the 3rd prong of how you'll be beneficial to the country. This is where lawyers are really helpful in drafting the letters, but you may choose to do that on your own. Read https://www.uscis.gov/policy-manual/volume-6-part-f-chapter-... the entire chapter very carefully beforehand though.
how would you suggest we should pursue this once all the paperwork is done? hire an immigration lawyer? any recommendations? we are non-YC.