Ask HN: Where are all the mechanical engineers?

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Hey HN! I come from a mostly EECS background, but because I work for a tiny robotics startup, I've been doing a nontrivial amount of mechanical design work at my job recently. We've been hiring some really talented mechanical engineers, but I would love to meet more (and ideally hire more folks way better than me!).

It occurred to me that I have no idea if there is an equivalent to HN for mechanical engineers. Do you all have any ideas on where I could be meeting more people? Are there communities like HN with a more mech-e focused crowd?

(Context: we are working on construction robots that build solar farms, and we had a Launch HN [0] post a few months back.)

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30780455

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Would love to see a HN for aviation startups.

Unfortunately most every time I see an aviation startup, it’s the same silly hot garbage. If I see one more multicopter based autonomous air taxi service, or magical supersonic transport for savage good boys pitched, I’m gonna scream.

(Context - 20+ years experience in product development engineering and new/derivative product launch at a large airframe manufacturer.)

Be the change you want. People are very receptive in that space. In a past life my team and I were starting to bring together a lot of connections. We started by asking our NX rep. for reference accounts. Those were people doing what we were, using the tools we were, and who had agreed to let Siemens give out their contact info. We were really surprised at the list we got and the people we were then able to connect with, and how open they were to just communicating on stuff.
Aviation is a though nut to crack without large money bags, especially civil aviation..

That being said, there is some cool stuff being done (lilium, boom, etc).

Time will tell if one should ditch the software dev hat and put on the engineer hat I guess? :-)

There's imechanica.org, I followed it more closely in my time at university but not sure what it's like more recently.
We're here! Just lurking for interesting posts!
reddit.com/r/askengineers tends to be heavier in conventional engineering / industrials. IDK if they allow recruiting posts.

But I think CS people tend to be much more online, since they build the internet and all.

There are always newspaper titles saying "we need more engineers", "where are all the engineers" or something similar.

To answer that. It's simple. The pay is bad.

We study for 4-5 years to get an Mech engineering degree and are promised 80K AUD+ starting salary (by many Australian universities).

The truth is you end up in debt whilst being removed from the work force for 4-5 years while studying. And you end up earning 40K AUD a year maybe a random few might earn 80K a year.

You end up in a position where you are highly trained and educated just to do CAD file translations. Surrounded by people who are not trained or educated who earn just as much or more then you.

Most Mechanical engineers (if smart) leave engineering and go to finance/software. I'd agree that the world needs more engineers to build things and make things more efficient and automated but the world wants and rewards administration and bureaucracy.

the prompt wasn’t questioning why there aren’t more - it was asking where they hang out online.
The question is in the title. I addressed the title, but what I said still applies. There are less Mech engineers to hang out online because they swap to other fields.

I understand what you are saying but this is also a comment. No one is obliged to answer someones prompt when commenting.

Also my comment was based on my own experiences and the experiences of my peers. Out of a cohort of 300 engineers by the end of the course 80 to 90% dropped. Now when ever I meet someone who wants to go into engineering I tell them to step back do your own research, consider the ROI and determine if you want to do it because you love engineering or if you just want to make money.

If they end up doing software they probably hang out here ;) The other ones, I have no idea.
Maybe Hackaday and its forums
I am one, I hang out here, Hackaday, the sparkfun and adafruit blogs, there is a solid design focused blog thing called "solidsmack". There is a cool podcast "being an engineer" (I'm one of the guests!).
I've made a career as a mechanical engineer. My experience has been the opposite of yours, actually, it's been similar.

I've worked at companies that had positions and work cultures like you describe. I've also worked at amazing positions with extraordinary cultures and compensation.

I've been told multiple times, by multiple people that "your smart, you should go into finance". Each time it was right before a big crash, where finance bros were looking for work.

Over the years I've focused on keeping myself busy working on new things, learning new skillsets, and bettering myself. It doesn't really matter that specific discipline you practice, if you are the kind of person that continuously adds to and refines their skills and track record of delivering, that person is then able to charge a premium for that skillset. It doesn't matter if your a jeweler, writer, chef, mechanical engineer.

All this to say, I'm a mechanical engineer, I've designed a ton of cool things, I do it every day. I deeply love it, and get better at it every day because I want to.

I have been fortunate to also have risen above the negatives the commenter above mentioned (low pay, lack of upward mobility, working on not fun stuff like file transitions or whatever). I started in a lower opportunity area, worked my way up through those types of jobs, was able to move myself and my family to a higher opportunity area (SF bay area in my case) and now I lead the design and company building efforts l, do thebfun stuff and contract out the boring stuff like file transitions and sheet metal manufacturing to companies in lower cost of living, lower cost to do business, lower opportunity areas.

All this to say I think that each technical discipline you can choose outside of academia focused things, has pretty equal opportunity, it's far less of a factor than the other factors in your career like location and the types of companies you are working at.

Thats great to hear iancmceachern.

"I'm a mechanical engineer, I've designed a ton of cool things, I do it every day. I deeply love it, and get better at it every day because I want to."

is a perfect example to as why anyone should pursue mechanical engineering. It's because you love it and managed to be compensated well.

I think the first part of your post is mostly true of most people who go to University.

But it's similar to IT, there are many IT and engineering jobs that pay well, but some of us simply don't get up in them for whatever reason. You could be a mining engineer working in the mines and get paid a staggering amount and not working any overtime.

I think the problem is not just the quality of jobs, but the number too. Even in advanced economies like Germany, where they make tons of stuff, the need for mechanical engineering isn't nowhere as high as it is for software developers. You get a small number of really talented people and other just do CAD or some assembly line stuff.
sounds exactly like software engineering / compsci
I dropped out from mechatronics studies. I don't think I was mature enough to study at that age. The course was designed to take in about 100 people each year with about 20% eventually expected to graduate. I don't think I remember anyone who could say they made it in the field. A friend became a director in a manufacturing company but the stuff they make would require no more than half a year of mechanics studies.. Potentially very interesting field with very few ending up doing something exciting.
Not related to mechanical engineering, but I always wonder why there is such less discussion of real world product design. It's almost like we take stuff for granted. What type of degree would one need to develop a career designing stuff like lunch tiffin boxes or shoes or the other hundreds of myriad things we use in daily life? So many people seem obsessed with CSS and JS here.
I've made a career of doing this. I got in through the Medical Device door but have since designed all kinds of stuff from small implanted medical devices to giant projector enclosures and outdoor video walls for those giant mouse themed parks in California and Florida. Happy to answer any questions, I have a website with more info and contact details.
Thanks for sharing! Lots of cool stuff on your website.
The technical university where I live has “Industrial design engineering” which sounds a bit like designing various “things”.
Many mechanical engineers are working as coders as well because of the better pay. Two of them, mechanical engineer grads are working in my team as software developers.
Mechanical Engineer - loved startups - was introduced to HN by CS nerd friend - loved the community - read an article on Energy Storage problem - founded company building solution to that - have raised millions - still hang out here and love it. The communities dialogue on a lot of things outside of CS (Energy and Dynamics I have noticed) is pretty sub par though especially when mixed with a bit of excessive cocksureness. Thanks for everything.
Any chance you could share what your company is? I'm in the energy space and always interested to see what Energy Storage solutions are getting funded.
EnergyBank.nz - seeing as we are both in nz can probably grab a coffee sometime if you’d like.
Well I started out as a Mechanical Engineering Technology student, but definitely didn’t feel challenged mentally by my junior year, so I switched to Mechanical Engineering, which lost me a couple years of credits. Then when I was a junior in Mechanical Engineering, I realized that I was theoretically more intelligent in understanding how and why things work, but I noticed that I only looked smarter on paper and it wasn’t as much applied knowledge. Then I kinda met in the middle with a Manufacturing Engineering Technology degree where I already knew all of the physics side of things, and learned more about Automation and Robotics, and how to make things more efficiently and increasing the ROI on the project from a Business perspective. But I’ll also agree that sometimes it takes quite a bit of hunting for work that’s equitable to your knowledge and skills. In most cases, if you find some work that pays well, there’s a good chance that the work is definitely needed, but it isn’t very challenging and becomes more like doing paperwork. That’s where I’m at now where I make enough money to be above the poverty line, but all I do is regurgitate paperwork without having much input on the design of the CADs that I’m making. I feel like there isn’t an abundant amount of opportunities for work along Mechanical Engineering that entices the engineer with equitable pay for doing something that they’re passionate about and still challenges them.
Are you going to stick it through or transition to something else?
I would like to hear that you are working on construction robots to install bifacial solar fences on working farms, making them dual-use, as opposed to dedicated-use solar farms, which I consider a dead end.