Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel. Therefore any further children (Where did the girls come from?) came from incest between Eve and Cain (Abel was already murdered).
Hey, hey, now. :) We can point out incest while not making any unproven allegations about Eve or Cain specifically:
When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of a son who was just like him—in his very image. He named his son Seth. After the birth of Seth, Adam lived another 800 years, and he had other sons and daughters. --Genesis 5:3-4
A couple of the claims made by the parent don't seem to hold merit: genital mutilation and dildos. I doubt the Bible has an examples of those, but the other claims, yes it does contain that, always as a negative example of how wicked people act.
The negative example aspect is important, because it conveys the intent that such material is included (and mind that even Bibles that contain pictures in them, don't depict those scenes). Rather than something to "get off on", as pornographic material does, it is something to feel disgusted by and thus be dissuaded from engaging in such practice.
I believe the genital mutilation refers to circumcision and the dildos would refer to Ezekiel "you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them"
> You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.
> Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’” Saul’s plan was to have David fall by the hands of the Philistines.
I'm utterly outraged at the state of our written literature, in this day and age we've fallen so far as to only partake in a single breast in the adult mags.
On the surface, this argument is “consistency.” Of course the surface argument covers something much deeper.
To condense and clarify, two options when speaking about the Bible:
1. The Bible is the Word of God, not human-made but revealed. Therefore it is the primary standard by which other decisions must be made. Therefore it drives intent of law, merit of other books, etc.
or 2. The Bible is not the Word of God, human-made and not revealed. Therefore something else is the primary standard by which other decisions must be made. Approaches to the Bible, along with intent of law, merit of other books, etc, is driven by something else.
What is the “something else” in point two? Nothing that measures up to the Bible in terms of justice and goodness. My money is on option #1, ill-conceived partial quoting of it notwithstanding.
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[ 3.5 ms ] story [ 54.4 ms ] threadAdam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel. Therefore any further children (Where did the girls come from?) came from incest between Eve and Cain (Abel was already murdered).
When Adam was 130 years old, he became the father of a son who was just like him—in his very image. He named his son Seth. After the birth of Seth, Adam lived another 800 years, and he had other sons and daughters. --Genesis 5:3-4
The negative example aspect is important, because it conveys the intent that such material is included (and mind that even Bibles that contain pictures in them, don't depict those scenes). Rather than something to "get off on", as pornographic material does, it is something to feel disgusted by and thus be dissuaded from engaging in such practice.
The impact of female circumcision is a lot higher than that of male circumcision, but IMO both are genital mutilation.
As to dildos, Ezekiel 16:17 gets very close. Picking a few translations at random:
“Thou hast also taken thy fair jewels made of my gold and of my silver, which I had given thee, and [m]madest to thyself images of men, and didst commit whoredom with them,” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&v...)
“You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel%2016-17...)
“You also took your beautiful jewels of my gold and my silver that I had given you, and made for yourself male images, and with them played the whore” (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel+16-17&v...)
Ummm... circumcision is pretty central in the old testament narrative.
> This is my covenant with you and your descendants after you, the covenant you are to keep: Every male among you shall be circumcised.
https://biblehub.com/genesis/17-10.htm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abrahamic_religions
https://live.bible.is/bible/ENGEVD/EZK/23/20
> You also took the fine jewelry I gave you, the jewelry made of my gold and silver, and you made for yourself male idols and engaged in prostitution with them.
https://biblehub.com/ezekiel/16-17.htm
Genital mutilation:
> Saul replied, “Say to David, ‘The king wants no other price for the bride than a hundred Philistine foreskins, to take revenge on his enemies.’” Saul’s plan was to have David fall by the hands of the Philistines.
https://biblehub.com/1_samuel/18-25.htm
To condense and clarify, two options when speaking about the Bible:
1. The Bible is the Word of God, not human-made but revealed. Therefore it is the primary standard by which other decisions must be made. Therefore it drives intent of law, merit of other books, etc.
or 2. The Bible is not the Word of God, human-made and not revealed. Therefore something else is the primary standard by which other decisions must be made. Approaches to the Bible, along with intent of law, merit of other books, etc, is driven by something else.
What is the “something else” in point two? Nothing that measures up to the Bible in terms of justice and goodness. My money is on option #1, ill-conceived partial quoting of it notwithstanding.