Ask HN: For users with 10k+ karma, how much time do you spend on HN?
Just curious about the economics of karma. For me, it takes so much mental energy just to even read a typical link shared on HN, so I usually skim through it and read the comments. So naturally got curious how much time do people spend if they have active discussions about topics here.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 125 ms ] threadI haven’t counted my comments, but I expect that I spend 20-60 minutes per day and maybe read 25 articles and comment on 10 a day.
I cut out next about 5 years ago and spend much less time on Reddit now that they got rid of their old mobile site. So this serves as my news substitute and “community” and market research for work (to learn about new data and tech software and companies to try out). And I don’t use any social media.
It does take mental energy to read and discuss, but that’s where I choose to focus and think it’s worthwhile. I find it better for mood and would just get angry after using social media or reading rage news, so this is a way to charge up and learn not only from the topics but from the thoughtful comments.
I first used the internet in 1994 and was a bit late for the well and early online communities, but I like the idea of people connected together working on a common good. HN isn’t that or anything but I feel like there are others with a similar mindset.
I tend to only comment on things I'm knowledgeable about or have reflected on, or that overlap to my experience. As such the comments tend to be relevant and to some degree insightful, and they get upvotes.
I'm not really aware of karma until someone IRL knows the site and is shocked by the number being high.
There's little worth in the karma. This morning I read a really insightful comment by someone with barely 600 karma (noticed as I was trying to figure out what they might be working on it interested in that gave them the perspective/experience). High karma doesn't feel valuable to game.
That said I got around 14k and I’m not spending an awful lot of time on HN on a regular basis (less than an hour daily, passive, reading). Posting, like now, is something I maybe do weekly.
But I’ve been here for years. Small upvotes over time do count.
And I only skim top comments, maybe for only 2~3 articles in a day.
So I don't have to spend much time on HN.
I basically visit whenever I'm bored or waiting for something, so maybe 20 mins in a day I guess?
But I think the time doesn't matter at all, as a large part of the karma is just a few links that got popular. The rest is having frequented the site for a very, very long time :)
EDIT: and of course, I don't think internet points do much good, I would not object to hiding it completely.
Here are the HN leaders:
https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders
Most of my karma is from submissions. I don’t get involved in discussions often.
eg. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36067490
.. but from the opposite scoring. I rarely submit anything, I'm just a poster in the comments section. One of these days I'm going to scrape out all my comments so I can rank them by score, maybe recycle them into Content.
Couple of key tips:
- if you're going to post an interesting link in the comments, take a moment to post it to /new first
- activity is highest at the top of threads, so piggyback off that
- if you're going to post jokes, make sure you post the explanation as well in the same comment
I have "noprocrast" set to 20 minutes on / two hours off, usually. So usually one or two 20 minute sessions per day.
I vaguely recall slashdot did something like "karma: excellent" or something to minimize karma as a score?
I’ve been curious about this for a long time though, already having pulled statistics like distributions of GitHub followers and stargazers.
Shouldn't be needed, there's an API.
https://github.com/HackerNews/API
https://news.ycombinator.com/leaders
Everyone else has less karma than these folks… the long tail.
I haven’t graphed it, but my subjective sense is that my karma per comment is distributed similarly. Most comments get approximately 1 karma point, but occasionally one comment will get dozens or even hundreds of upvotes.
[0] https://abetusk.github.io/yahnda/
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I'm coming up on 10 years here... I've never been a big receiver of upvotes, it's just time.
I don't, but the powers that be do. If you read the occasional submission with that site that documents HN's behaviors that aren't listed on an HN page, you'll see it lists certain things like needing 500 karma to downvote but you may note that some behaviors repeatedly reported in the comments are never added to the site. Is that on purpose? I don't know.
HN is a good site with good discussion. You just have to accept that sometimes you're going to get muted with a "you're posting too fast" message even when you've only made two comments in the last twelve hours, neither of which are flagged, and both of which have positive scores.
I mostly use HN when I'm waiting for things (meetings, people, test runs, etc.) I pretend to myself that this is actually improving my productivity.
It's probably directly related to how busy I am, or how interesting the project I'm on is.
Ultimately though I get far more out of HN than I put in. I've worked from home, for myself, for most of the last 10 years. HN has been my connection with with wider tech wold, and an opportunity to talk about things I'm interested in that I would be hard pressed to find people to talk to about in the local Pub.
It’s a 2010 account though so many years of light activity really