"[T]he new environmental, social and good governance filters have resulted in US Treasuries ending up on an investing blacklist, due to America’s failure to ratify a number of treaties in areas including women’s rights and controversial weapons."
Women have equal legal rights in the U.S. In any case, I think laws about womens' rights in the U.S. should be changed based on what Americans think, not what German investors think.
Yup and the US can pull its military bases out of Germany as well as remove troops from the European theater more generally and let them defend themselves.
I thought they basically did out of one or two with a (large) hospital and airbase…. The troops went elsewhere and the equipment came home. Googling says 35k troops in Germany, but doesn’t break down by service arm.
Edit: without the nato airbases it’s a long flight trying to redeploy from N America to, say, the Middle East. Having client states partway keeps troops secure in transit and provides a place to organize/redeploy.
Edit: US troops have no business in the ME. The only business they have in Europe is defending Europeans and as far as the Germans are concerned they feel the way we engage in warfare is inappropriate.
Those bases are there now mostly to be there in the future.
The US wants a large military airport, hospital, warehouses and supporting infrastructure at a location where it can be trusted to remain there for twenty years or more, because building such things takes time. There aren't a lot of suitable locations within, say, three hours of flying time from the present facilities. So they're going to stay.
Really? I was under the impression that Poland wanted the US to establish permanent bases on its territory and that they would make most of the American presence in Germany superfluous. (The Russians do not like this at all and the outcome of the current conflict may affect the PL-US cooperation. But that's not really the point here.) Maybe someone can correct me but I understood that the base in Ramstein is the only American base in Germany that is hard to replace because of a favourable position to communicate with satellites and provide nearly instantaneous communication between multiple theatres. Hard for me to say if 1'000 km east in Poland is less favourable.
It's also an open secret at this point that American atomic gravity bombs are stored in bases in Italy, Belgium, UK and Germany. The current Polish government doesn't seem to be opposed to doing the same in Poland. Plans to maintain the American nuclear umbrella may still involve Germany regardless of Poland's decisions.
Sure they want a base, but how much would you bet that they wouldn't try to use the base for political purposes once the Americans have invested too much to walk away? The planners in the Pentagon want their bases for American purposes and only American purposes.
Are you saying they were trying to keep the West Germans in check after WW2? Nothing else going on in the area at the time (and arguably still), towards the east? Topkek
Well, to be honest, both World Wars were Germany's fault, so it kind of made sense keeping them in check and making sure they won't try for the third time. Of course Soviet Union then quickly overshadowed them as a threat. Right now that NATO expanded to the East, Germany are not frontier country anymore, so the only way American troops make sense there is again, as occupying army.
> The first decade of the 20th century saw increasing diplomatic tension between the European great powers. This reached a breaking point on 28 June 1914, when a Bosnian Serb named Gavrilo Princip assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne. Austria-Hungary held Serbia responsible, and declared war on 28 July. Russia came to Serbia's defence, and by 4 August, defensive alliances had drawn in Germany, France, and Britain, with the Ottoman Empire joining the war in November.
>Are you saying they were trying to keep the West Germans in check after WW2?
Absolutely, they also had to do various clean up tasks. Executions, Trials, political policing, etc. I don't think there is any kind of reasonable debate that stationing troops in Germany wasn't for the interest of the US in West Germany.
Of course equally true is that as relationships between the former Allies deteriorated Germany became the frontline of that conflict and the focus shifted. The remilitarized German Armies on both sides became quite important as they both would be the first line of defense against any aggressor.
The Germans are using any plausible excuse to cut out American influence and leverage. This is a total red herring. Also see that Belgium suspended FATCA reporting in the name of GDPR. America will have to bomb Europe into submission soon to maintain control and relevance.
>The Germans are using any plausible excuse to cut out American influence and leverage.
One of the most absurd statements I have ever heard. Especially when even suggesting that Germany has any relations with Russia, is near criminal and all government parties are heavily dedicated to the alliance, especially the greens.
> One of the most absurd statements I have ever heard
Then you must be living in a reality distortion field. Nobody is making references to Russian ties. This is something you came up with because it is what came to your mind instinctively. We are focusing on the real occupation force in this discussion. Germany has been occupied by the United States since World War 2 and has 21 American military bases on its soil. This year marks the 78th year of the occupation.
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[ 3.4 ms ] story [ 80.5 ms ] threadWomen have equal legal rights in the U.S. In any case, I think laws about womens' rights in the U.S. should be changed based on what Americans think, not what German investors think.
Edit: without the nato airbases it’s a long flight trying to redeploy from N America to, say, the Middle East. Having client states partway keeps troops secure in transit and provides a place to organize/redeploy.
Edit: US troops have no business in the ME. The only business they have in Europe is defending Europeans and as far as the Germans are concerned they feel the way we engage in warfare is inappropriate.
The US wants a large military airport, hospital, warehouses and supporting infrastructure at a location where it can be trusted to remain there for twenty years or more, because building such things takes time. There aren't a lot of suitable locations within, say, three hours of flying time from the present facilities. So they're going to stay.
https://www.iamexpat.de/expat-info/german-expat-news/germany....
Are you saying they were trying to keep the West Germans in check after WW2? Nothing else going on in the area at the time (and arguably still), towards the east? Topkek
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I
> The first decade of the 20th century saw increasing diplomatic tension between the European great powers. This reached a breaking point on 28 June 1914, when a Bosnian Serb named Gavrilo Princip assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand, heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne. Austria-Hungary held Serbia responsible, and declared war on 28 July. Russia came to Serbia's defence, and by 4 August, defensive alliances had drawn in Germany, France, and Britain, with the Ottoman Empire joining the war in November.
Absolutely, they also had to do various clean up tasks. Executions, Trials, political policing, etc. I don't think there is any kind of reasonable debate that stationing troops in Germany wasn't for the interest of the US in West Germany.
Of course equally true is that as relationships between the former Allies deteriorated Germany became the frontline of that conflict and the focus shifted. The remilitarized German Armies on both sides became quite important as they both would be the first line of defense against any aggressor.
https://www.brecorder.com/news/1002286/trump-plan-to-slash-u...
One of the most absurd statements I have ever heard. Especially when even suggesting that Germany has any relations with Russia, is near criminal and all government parties are heavily dedicated to the alliance, especially the greens.
Then you must be living in a reality distortion field. Nobody is making references to Russian ties. This is something you came up with because it is what came to your mind instinctively. We are focusing on the real occupation force in this discussion. Germany has been occupied by the United States since World War 2 and has 21 American military bases on its soil. This year marks the 78th year of the occupation.
I think the countries are free to make the laws, and investors are free to choose to invest their money in opressive theocracies or not...