But… you’re not going to have time for that. This is going to take over the ‘virtual workplace’ and thus you will spend most of your life with all of your actions and surroundings monitored to make sure you’re doing some meaningless task and nothing else.
People say it’s a horrible idea. They hate it. Tough. Your company will require it. It’s nothing for them. The future of work is going to make sweat shops look like lollapalooza.
Employment is a global market now. Unions will just cause cheaper more desperate employees overseas to have to wear the headsets while the union members collect unemployment.
We could, oh, I don’t know, build local work groups and refuse to accept US dollars locally.
There are other frequencies we can speak, and geometry we can “draw” on the globe via agency. No need to constrain them to ephemeral value stores and chants of the last 60-70 years.
It’s pretty sad how we set aside our self guided learning to prop up gadgets to prop up some hallucinated figurative view of the world we had foisted on us.
I feel zero obligation to play host to a mind virus that preserves Zuckerberg and crews figurative identity. I only do so as a pragmatic acquiescence given the other primates fealty. It’s gross.
It makes sense for Apple to have put little focus on gaming for the launch of this product. They're betting on "spatial computing" as a new computing paradigm alongside desktop and mobile interfaces. I wouldn't even call it a "trade-off" as Zuck suggests—Apple just doesn't want to sell you on what other headsets are already doing. As of now, you can't compromise and just get something else instead of Apple Vision Pro (but if the paradigm takes off, I'm sure you will be able to).
That said, it's a given that VR games (and probably third-party controllers) will trickle into visionOS. I also agree with Zuck that Apple's entry will generate more interest in the VR space in general, indirectly benefiting Quest and the VR gaming industry.
He comes off very defensive to me. When he says it validates the category, or that Quest 3 will be the primary beneficiary due to affordability, I get no sense of actual excitement. I'm not sure he's wrong about that stuff exactly; but I'd have been much more convinced if he was excited and animated, and making fewer disparaging remarks, peddling rumors about how few Apple is making, etc.
It’s not really a rumor anymore. They’re shipping between 500k and 1m units. I thought he was doing what any CEO would do shining his own products in the best possible light, I mean, you really think he’s going to be like,
“yeah, sure Apple screwed me and all that but it’s awesome that they’re getting into XR because they’re going to make the world a better place”
No. Companies are not altruistic nor should they necessarily be.
Of course I don't expect him to say that. There's been people here and elsewhere saying, "this is good for Meta, actually", and Mark is also saying that.
And I don't know what to make of the logic. It might be right! It might not. I'm interested in opinions on that.
My comment is just that it doesn't appear to me, based on the defensiveness and lack of excitement from Mark, that he believes it.
OF COURSE I don't expect him to say they're screwed, if he believes that. If I expected that, I wouldn't be trying to work out his mood when he spins it as positive. I don't know if he thinks this is a positive thing for them or not, but his demeanor suggests not to me.
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[ 3.9 ms ] story [ 41.6 ms ] threadBut… you’re not going to have time for that. This is going to take over the ‘virtual workplace’ and thus you will spend most of your life with all of your actions and surroundings monitored to make sure you’re doing some meaningless task and nothing else.
People say it’s a horrible idea. They hate it. Tough. Your company will require it. It’s nothing for them. The future of work is going to make sweat shops look like lollapalooza.
That sounds rough. The return to office mandates were only the start of it, weren't they? Are you going into construction instead?
Unions.
And the union leaders don't have the balls to strike fully to actually make the company hurt enough to make an actual good deal for the workers.
Autoworkers union managed to return much of Detroit back to nature.
China and Mexican have blossomed from unions efforts.
There are other frequencies we can speak, and geometry we can “draw” on the globe via agency. No need to constrain them to ephemeral value stores and chants of the last 60-70 years.
It’s pretty sad how we set aside our self guided learning to prop up gadgets to prop up some hallucinated figurative view of the world we had foisted on us.
I feel zero obligation to play host to a mind virus that preserves Zuckerberg and crews figurative identity. I only do so as a pragmatic acquiescence given the other primates fealty. It’s gross.
That said, it's a given that VR games (and probably third-party controllers) will trickle into visionOS. I also agree with Zuck that Apple's entry will generate more interest in the VR space in general, indirectly benefiting Quest and the VR gaming industry.
“yeah, sure Apple screwed me and all that but it’s awesome that they’re getting into XR because they’re going to make the world a better place”
No. Companies are not altruistic nor should they necessarily be.
And I don't know what to make of the logic. It might be right! It might not. I'm interested in opinions on that.
My comment is just that it doesn't appear to me, based on the defensiveness and lack of excitement from Mark, that he believes it.
OF COURSE I don't expect him to say they're screwed, if he believes that. If I expected that, I wouldn't be trying to work out his mood when he spins it as positive. I don't know if he thinks this is a positive thing for them or not, but his demeanor suggests not to me.