Ask HN: How do you organize your life?
This includes long-term goals, short-term goals, daily planning, TODO lists, reviews, your everyday workflow, and so on.
Over the years I've experimented with several different systems. Simple TODO lists, OKRs, a single ascii huge text file with daily schedules and a few templates, emacs org-mode, and now I am using Obsidian. But I've never been full satisfied with any of the systems. Looking back, the large plain text file was probably the best overall, but org-mode also had some really nice features for scheduling and tracking.
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[ 4.2 ms ] story [ 157 ms ] threadOrganization is a tool not a goal.
What does it take to make a task self-organizing?
Can I delegate organization to habit, routine, or ritual?
In the past, I thought "I will sit at the computer and organize the N problems of my life."
Thus I had N+1 problems.
YMMV.
Good luck.
Automation is incidental complexity.
If automating X is an improvement, X isn’t worth doing.
Automating X is not doing X. That’s the whole point of automating X.
Simply not doing X is the simplest way to not do X.
But I am probably thinking of what “worth” means in a different way than you are.
And I am ok with life not making sense in the way your comment implies.
I’m all for accomplishments but daily “challenges” sounds exhausting.
How do you balance that with time off and relaxation?
Can you meditate and stay still for 5 minutes? Well, try to stay still for 15 minutes. Try to reduce number of negative thoughts in a day, etc.
It is just about finding the right type of framing the challenge for yourself.
No, I don't find the process exhausting at all. I find that I get better over time, if I struggle now, and with higher skills/capabilities, life just gets better.
Edit: domain is .com (I don't trust ccTLDs) and paid for 10 years.
It all revolves around labels, and I store just about everything there, from lists of web design inspiration to random ideas I come up with (each labelled appropriately, in those cases with "list" and "Idea" respectively). It's particularly useful for tracking todos, since I can just close the issue once I finish the todo.
I like to keep it simple and purge what's no longer needed. It probably looks heavy to anyone else than me, but I find it pretty compact.
I am less worried about getting things done on schedule in my personal life. For better or worse. I block out time on my calendar sometimes or create an event on my calendar in the future. I will also sometimes schedule send an email to myself as a reminder.
There are some nice self-hosted open-source alternatives/copycats (https://alternativeto.net/software/todoist/), but I've been too lazy the last few years to try and the price is generally reasonable enough that I haven't been too motivated.
I try to make my life a little more free-flowing so that it doesn't feel like work.
I live with a bit more spontaneity. Text my friends out for a spontaneous dinner, go out spontaneously with wife, make spontaneous weekend trips. Life seems more fun this way.
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> My problem with org-mode, Obsidian, etc is that they are attention black holes, you focus all of your time installing plugins and configuring your workspace that by the time you're done with that you don't really feel like doing the real work
Seems so contradictory ha!
Yes, it took time to develop it, but I would be working on another shiny thing anyway as I like to work on side projects, so I see that as a net gain.
I was able to consolidate 7 years of office notes divided in two applications in a week, 25 minutes day, into a new hierarchy, and did it with Obsidian as-is. I can't look from the perspective where one needs a month to optimize an application even before writing their first note in it.
The aim is to never receive notifications, actually. :)
I'm trying to reduce unnecessary time in front of computers, not maximize it. :)
Yes, what OP does is not very conventional, but I felt that redirection of this ambition to more practical ways can return OP as another productivity boost.
IOW, I repurposed your comment. :)
Now I feel better just because an internet stranger is having a better day, honestly! :)
Hope you have a great day, too.
On the bottom level, I use Trello with my wife. Longer term tasks are stored there, in a modified kanban-style board (multiple backlog queues, in progress, done, canceled). This is visited semi-regularly and updated. Also we plan bigger events like long travels and things involving both of us there.
On the day to day level, I use Pagico. Pagico is a personal "project management" application which can track multiple projects and store data about them. Work life and personal life has different spaces, and I can mix them together in Pagico to handle tasks in both places.
The biggest advantage of Pagico is its "Dashboard" views, which allow me to divide tasks into days and "forecast" my week, and anticipate crunches and deadlines before things become too problematic. Of course Murphy finds a way, but seeing what's coming goes a long way.
On the shortest term (minutes to hours), I use pen and paper. I always have an affinity to writing, so taking notes, writing sub tasks, etc. allows me to work with a lower mental load. This notebooks are scanned and shredded when they are full.
All important documents are stored in Evernote, shared with my wife.
This is the third or fourth iteration of my personal system, last revamped during the pandemic, in 2020. Before that I had a bullet-like journal I started before bullet-journalling craze, and overgrown it.
Please feel free to ask any further questions.
you dont't organize eating, sleeping, shtting, loving,... Did you ever forgot to eat or hug your beloved one and organize a birthday party for your wife / children / whoever?
so why do you want to "organize" the other aspects of your life?
The only things i need to push me forward in the important aspects of my life are values*.
The values are working like a compass and pushing me fully "from self" in the right directions.
If one value is punctuality then you will find a natural way to reach this value.
If the Value is your own and it is real, then you will find various ways to reach it.
So go and look out for the real important values in your life. If you need "lists" or "organisation tricks" to reach goals, then, maybe, these goals are not your own goals.
Find them and the rest will follow :)
I'm not sure your method is going to help there.
Even though something is one's core value, it is still challenging to focus on executing it. This is especially true for people with ADHD. But most people who accomplish things are able (one way or the other) to organize themselves.
Terrible advice. It's like saying, eat whatever you want. If you find yourself continually eating funnel cakes deep and deep fried turkey legs, just go with it because obviously you must be passionate about being fat. Humans are lazy. Exercise is generally good for us, but most don't have so much passion for running or lifting that we just wake up everyday and magically find ourselves in a squat rack.
And all the "live your life freely" advice in the world is not going to help me there.
I also have ADHD. I value the shit out of punctuality, but punctuality does not reciprocate without elaborate time management tools. And yes, I've forgotten to eat, or to hug a loved one, or to organize a birthday party.
The idea that there is "one weird trick" that'll just work for everybody is ignoring that we all live different lives. And there is value in exposing people to different approaches. But let's stop pretending that "Don't do A. Do B!" is good advice. The best we can do on this kind of advice is "here's what works for me"
I'm not sure this is helpful advice for anyone, to be honest. "The goals you think are important actually aren't if you need any reminders or tools to get there!" is a bad take for the majority of people, I think. If it works for you, that's great. I'm jealous that things align that way for you. But I'm guessing that for the majority of people, that isn't the case.
Forgetting things actively gets in the way of me living life.
I wouldn’t vouch for over-planning since that’s going to topple over the second you slip up, but having a list of “things you probably don’t want to do but past-you thought was important” is how I manage to do the big fun parts of living!
Sleeping and eating (though a tasty meal can be) are not my goals, but I need them in order to do interesting things.
Among those various ways to "reach it" is organizing things.
That's not how it works if you have even a little bit of complexity in your life, which anyone with responsibilities has.
> Did you ever forgot to eat or hug your beloved one and organize a birthday party for your wife / children / whoever?
Some do, yes. And how does one even throw a party without some basic organizations?
But what about the boring parts? Taxes, doctor visits, household, managing finances... Not everyone can afford to thrift through live.
> If one value is punctuality then you will find a natural way to reach this value. >If the Value is your own and it is real, then you will find various ways to reach it.
People call that organization.
> maybe, these goals are not your own goals.
Staying alive and healthy is may goal, I still sometimes forget some duties which support this, because life is more than what is under my nose.
> you dont't organize eating, sleeping
I absolutely do.
There's nothing wrong with making your life more efficient to reach your goals faster.
Here[1] is the methodology that works for me. It enables long and short term planning and organization in accordance with my changing priorities and values.
[1]: https://sagar.se/blog/a-task-management-model/
Me too. Ever since starting on plain text methods that I read about a professor using on here, I have experimented with capturing a log of my todos using emacs along with other methods such as iOS Notes, Excel and email.
At the end of the day, I settled on Obsidian because I can sync the vault across my iOS devices and even create separate vaults for work to isolate notes or reminders. It has become a repo for a lot of my notes, ideas and is also designed well.
For day to day, I am able to keep reminders and tasks in the Things app (which shows my calendar, creates tasks from email and make tasks linkable)
The UI is simple, so I focus on the content. As it is Markdown-based, I am not afraid to be locked in, and I back up everything with git.
I use the Calendar plugin, making creating daily (and weekly) notes easy. With each daily note, I write things in the style of Bullet Journal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hLnY9L1c-M) - all things to do, but started from scratch (so I don't accumulate any TODO debt, which is a nightmare for many of us and people with ADHD in particular). I add all I did that day anyway (whether planned or not) - sometimes an "unproductive" day was full of chores and errands that I had forgotten about but were necessary.
Also, I have folders for drafts (of blog posts and long emails), practical notes (e.g. checklist for traveling), the archive (of re-usable things (e.g. my FB posts I might want to keep).
For me, large files containing everything make me feel lost and confused - all in all, you can easily search Markdown files - be it with Obsidian built-in search, Visual Studio Code, or anything else. YMMV.
YAML! Shudder! But it's the best way I found to enter Markdown with some metadata at the top.
Each day file has multiple Yaml documents, with ids like `yyyy-MM-dd/number`. I use [ ] for todos and turn them into [x] when they are done. This way, searching/grepping for `[ ]` gives me a list of stuff not done yet. I sometimes have a list of things to do in my day. I move the `[ ]`s to the next day at the end of the current day (or start of the next).
I use Visual Studio Code snippets to enter the metadata.
Example:
The `links` item points to other notes by id (it's an array).The idea of having ids with daily counters is from https://www.soenkeahrens.de/en/takesmartnotes.
[edits: formatting the yaml, mention 'how to take smart notes' book, mention that the `text` is Markdown]