Some more than others. If pollution credits are sold, buying a Tesla just allows someone else to buy a pas guzzler. If Tesla kept them off the market, buying a Tesla actually reduces air pollution.
if Tesla didn’t sell pollution credits to the highest bidder, someone else would be selling pollution credits to the highest bidder.
I'd rather have Tesla make money off of them!
With their other losses they'll need some impressive financing to get anything new off the ground. Good luck securing that in 2024. Even if they get it, they're gonna take another bath if they try to target sub-$25K with a crossover. That's ICE territory; hybrids and all-electric crossovers are already $10-15K more.
Well, if Tesla announces it for mid-2025, they may start producing it in real numbers by 2030, but most probably never.
At this point, their timelines and announcements are a complete joke. And I'm not even talking about the faked FSD video from 2016 - for which Dan O'Dowd posted here a quite ironic comment: https://twitter.com/RealDanODowd/status/1749933238985110000#...
How is the Tesla Semi ramp going (released >1 ago, still absolutely no leaks about it specs) ?
Cybertruck (released ~2 months ago, with a supposedly 2 million reservations, but people that were estimated 100k in the queue already got some) ?
Tesla Dojo Cluster (which was supposed to be top 5 'in the entire World') by now ?
I hate to be the pessimist, but at this point, it's very clear that they are intentionally lying.
people that were estimated 100k in the queue already got some
This is a big one. I know a lot of people that cancelled their CT reservations. I see more Rivians in SoCal than CyberTrucks...and I drive past SpaceX on my way to work.
It's pretty shocking that I would see more SpaceX and Tesla employees driving Rivians than CTs, given that you would expect people who work for Musk to be at the top of the list for new cars.
It says a lot that people with the most up-close experience to the CT have voted with their wallets and gone with Rivian instead.
It seems you’re struggling to comprehend the raw availability difference. Also kinda funny how you decidedly say they “have voted” because of an image you made up in hour head. Do you ever reach for data before making up your mind?
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[ 27.4 ms ] story [ 1094 ms ] threadNow if only Tesla didn’t sell pollution credits to the highest bidder, their cars would actually have a net positive environmental impact.
Tesla benefiting financially (paying for R&D) from said government action, as intended = bad
???
The mental gymnastics, I swear.
Telsa selling pollution credits to competitors to stall their EV programs = bad
Resale is EXACTLY the purpose of carbon/emission credits
They have plenty of money to invest. And they have been working on the project for a while now.
2025 BYD plug-in hybrid ute spotted in Australia
https://www.whichcar.com.au/news/2025-byd-plug-in-hybrid-ute...Generic Headline: Company X has plans for next year
At this point, their timelines and announcements are a complete joke. And I'm not even talking about the faked FSD video from 2016 - for which Dan O'Dowd posted here a quite ironic comment: https://twitter.com/RealDanODowd/status/1749933238985110000#...
How is the Tesla Semi ramp going (released >1 ago, still absolutely no leaks about it specs) ?
Cybertruck (released ~2 months ago, with a supposedly 2 million reservations, but people that were estimated 100k in the queue already got some) ?
Tesla Dojo Cluster (which was supposed to be top 5 'in the entire World') by now ?
I hate to be the pessimist, but at this point, it's very clear that they are intentionally lying.
This is a big one. I know a lot of people that cancelled their CT reservations. I see more Rivians in SoCal than CyberTrucks...and I drive past SpaceX on my way to work.
People underestimate how hard it is to scale a new platform. Look at GMs Ultium for example.
Cybertruck is a new ground up platform. Their own engines and battery cells.
They’re only delivering CA and TX it seems so they’re skipping numbers obviously
It says a lot that people with the most up-close experience to the CT have voted with their wallets and gone with Rivian instead.
As long as there are people in the US who want to play cowboy, there will be a market for the CT.
Jumping of queue numbers based on delivery location is expected. They’re mostly delivering TX and CA.