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Brian from Real Engineering thinks[1] a likely culprit is that the company that makes the fuselage doesn't completely secure the door plugs because they usually get removed to build out the interior of the plane according to the customer's desires. If Boeing actually didn't take the plugs out for that purpose, it's possible that there was a miscommunication that that was the case, or a missed step in the procedure documents that those need to be fully secured even if they were never removed.

[1] https://youtu.be/hhT4M0UjJcg (that part starts around 3:45)

From the article: The bolts were missing not loose. Boeing did not put in the bolts when they re-installed the doors.

From my speculation: Somehow this escaped a quality inspection step due to a problem with a procedure where the bolts are not added to a checklist.

Go read the thread that claims to be a whistleblower inside Boeing (over here: https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/safety/146074-boeing-inte... ). The claim is that the door plug was removed to repair a seal that was damaged while reworking rivets that failed inspection, but the door wasn't reinspected as it should have been. It's a pretty damning claim that will be a huge liability for Boeing as the FAA investigates the electronic chatter on internal systems about the plane that failed.

The big question is how many more time-bombs like this are going to be found lurking inside of Boeing's SAT system.

> The bolts were missing not loose.

The same explanation is plausible for either one.

> Boeing did not put in the bolts when they re-installed the doors.

Do we actually know for sure that they were re-installed?

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In which case it's rather impressive that the door stayed seated in place as long as it did.
Well, they did have pressurisation issues pretty much from the start, and pulled the plane off ETOPS routes..
The issues were with the controllers for the pressurization system, these control the valve that releases pressure from the fuselage in order to maintain a pressure that is high enough but not too high. A different indication would have been generated if the AC packs could not maintain pressure.
Wow. I hope, I‘ll never have to fly in a Boeing plane again. As a European, I‘m happy for Airbus.
So monopolies are OK but only when it benefits Europeans?
"I don't want to fly company A, im happy with company B."

And from that phrase you took that OP likes B to be a monopoly? All that because he expressed... choice on the competitor?

Wait, so the airplane manufacturer, Boeing, does not even make its own airframes? Some third party company makes the whole fuselage (most of the plane) and Boeing does what, bolts on the wings and third-party engines then sells it?
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I'd be cautious about believing these 'whistleblowers' who make it sound like the problem is human error, or Boeing contractors, etc., or anything else where there's a scapegoat or a quick fix.

I'm not saying it's not true, but if you were trying to restore confidence in the airworthiness of a fundamentally flawed design, it might make sense to publish unfalsifiable rumours along those lines.

You'd think that someone would have noticed the four extra bolts that were left over when they stuck the plug back in. I mean, that happens to all of us, but most of us aren't working on anything important.

It implies that the bolts were actually never there at all. But again, you'd think someone would notice that on disassembly.