Joking aside, I really think you need a unique angle and a solid distribution strategy: there are 1,000 PH clones but they don't stick because they're the same as PH, just with less users/traction/eyeballs.
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I first read it as "Huntile" which is like Product Hunt + quartile. Then I saw it's Huntlie, "HUNT LIE" which has negative connotations. And then I click the site and see the coupon code is "HUNTILE". christ
Don't use the term "hunt" in the name, to me it just screams "dupe" instead of something unique. Go the route of improving what PH has and adding things that are missing.
Some ideas:
- Users should be able to update their post to some extent.
- There's no "product page" in your app, build something where I can see people commenting, reacting, and maybe even sharing their own screenshots of it because that's something PH does pretty well but can be improved.
- "LAUNCHES WORTH YOUR SCROLL" sounds kinda cringe, change to something like "Find the next best thing" or make it random on load and have a few less in your face versions of it. Reddit has "homepage of the internet" which seems appropriate. You can have "have you launched yet?", "find the next best thing", "what's trending today"...etc
I have more ideas, feel free to message me or drop a way to contact you if you'd like more feedback :)
At least in American English “next to best” would mean second whereas “next best thing” means something likely to be the best thing in the near future and it’s a very common idiom.
Do you not have sentence structures along the line of "I wanted the premium model but it was out of my budget so I went for the next best thing"?
I get we're trying to go for "next [best thing]" but yeah I (also UK) read it as "[next best] thing" and can't think of any examples where I'd read it as the former
To jump in on the confusion, I'm American and have seen it used both ways, completely dependent on context. When I read the original comment I understood it as 'next thing that we all think is best' rather than 'second best.'
But after reading the comments and thinking on it, I realize it's probably used more often in the context of 'second best.'
In American English "next best thing" means second best. It is used to suggest an alternative when you can't get what you want. "Don't have Coke, maybe get a Pepsi, it's the next best thing."
I immediately got it. Understanding that the typical reader in this space is generally atypical “find the next best thing” would likely mean "look here to find the thing that's better than the current best." I guess it largely depends on who your audience is.
It really is an unfortunate name. How do you pronounce it, hunt lie? Hunt Lee? I'm not sure, but my first impression was it was a portmanteau of hunt and lie, which wouldn't be something I'd want my startup to be associated with
>>> Don't use the term "hunt" in the name, to me it just screams "dupe" instead of something unique. Go the route of improving what PH has and adding things that are missing.
Here's additionally a solution versus just criticism^^:
How about PoshProduct. ProductPower.
The word product screams attention to both product hunt and ProductPower users. Just make the emoji bolt your logo. Product Power! Be the first to know.
> Don't use the term "hunt" in the name, to me it just screams "dupe" instead of something unique.
> [...]
> You can have "have you launched yet?", "find the next best thing", "what's trending today"...etc
OP: I may or may not be in possession of hasitlaunched dot com, should you be interested in purchasing it…
I liked the submission flow, it was nice and simple. The only issue is that at the end of the process I got a page that looked like it was broken, so had to manually navigate to the main page.
When everything is a priority, nothing is a priority. Re: the black visit buttons. Save black for the top 3 featured, and make the rest a milder color. It's cognitively fatiguing to have a giant list of primary buttons.
In the context of discovering brand-new companies, it does come across as somewhat ironic.
Maybe consider the "Kodak recipe" for an alternative? [1]: "Keep it short, easy to pronounce, and avoid similarities to existing names or associations." (short is harder in 2024 though!)
I'm on the fence on whether the name should have meaning. There are plenty of successful companies on either side.
I think he meant Huntly, but unfortunately, we Indians have our own idiosyncratic way with English. The founder/builder is Indian (I'm Indian, and I know).
Unrelated, but I am thinking about how do I get alpha users for an app I am building, and decided to check Product Hunt if they offer any sort of feature to help with that, and I ended up on this page https://www.producthunt.com/questions
Looks like someone is trying to pull a Forbes...
And I guess related to you, please don't do that :)
Forbes, a name that probably makes people think about business articles, has been publishing all sorts of non-business pieces and they did extremely well on SEO because the domain has a lot of authority and inbound links.
So well that basically people were speculating the SEO part would take over the more traditional business.
Google caught up recently (as in a few weeks ago) and has heavily punished their ranks.
Ironically if you search Google for “Forbes SEO” you’ll find many articles about what happened. I think it all started with something titled “The parasitic company trying to take over Forbes”
Personal note - I used to be a pretty frequent user of ProductHunt. Some folks I worked with jokingly called me the SaaS King. If you had a problem, I knew of 3 tools to potentially solve it.
The biggest reason why I stopped using ProductHunt was because people opted to submit and upvote low quality "list of X" aggregation services and minor updates, not real products. Hopefully you've thought about how to refine the curation.
Also, agreed with the feedback from muhammadusman about having a product page. Right now, it's just a list of links with synopsis - not enough to intrigue me to explore further.
Hi, I liked the idea.
There are some issues, maybe these are in your todo list, but I want to tell you based on my usage.
1. there is no difference before and after login. (maybe login is unsuccessful)
2. I cannot edit/delete my submitted project.
3. No search for projects.
4. No Dark mode :)
Looks promising! May I offer some gentle feedback on your blurb above the fold?
> fDeploy is a self-hosted deployment software for Windows being currently built in Stockholm, Sweden by developers with over 10 years of experience in the industry, focusing only on the most essential and most valuable features.
I'd recommend focusing on what the most valuable features are and making those the highlight. Leading with who is building it and where doesn't add much unless your team is especially well-known or noteworthy. Also, citing "10 years of experience" as social proof might not resonate strongly—it's not a differentiator for most audiences (10 years is not that long). Instead, consider showcasing the unique aspects of the product that would immediately grab attention.
There are so many product hunt alternatives that it's hard to keep track. There are literally services to go around and list you on all of the alternatives. I believe it's about 60+.
The problem with ProductHunt is that it's basically the glory days are behind it. If you want to have a successful ProductHunt launch the key is simple, wait until you're established and then send an email to all your customers to upvote you.
People focus so much on having a good ProductHunt launch like it'll make a difference. They go around begging everyone they know and spamming everyone they don't know asking for an upvote. They'll spend weeks focusing on this product hunt launch and overall get less traffic than they would from posting on here with Show HN and less traffic than they would get from posting on the right subreddits.
Product Hunt and similar launch sites are just focusing don't he false hope that new founders have that the launch matters.
What problem does PH solve/what problem would this solve?
Honestly PH always felt to me like a time waster. “Oh look at this idea. Neat. Next.”
Now, a website where I can type in the problem I am having and it suggests solutions (with a mix of self hosted vs commercial products depending on my settings) would be super useful. For example: “I want to organize a library full of old photos that don’t have metadata” or “I want a cheap online backup solution with support for Linux servers” or “I want to automate sending personalized-feeling birthday cards to people I know professionally”.
PH is a website that program managers from big companies such as Microsoft and Google go to get ideas for new features.
I recommend against post anything to PH unless you have patents, or a big marketing budget, if not your idea will just be copied by big companies before you can get the word out about your product.
Do you have any examples of this happening? How many products on Product Hunt do you think are patent-able?
My startup was posted on PH, and many years later we're quite successful. We had $0 budget and it was just me at the time, and it worked out wonderfully.
That's a pretty cynical view....besides, big companies would take months/years to to copy an idea - even if it's a good one - and by then the market has moved.
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Joking aside, I really think you need a unique angle and a solid distribution strategy: there are 1,000 PH clones but they don't stick because they're the same as PH, just with less users/traction/eyeballs.
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Hunt doesn’t mean anything. Huntly is bad. Huntlie is terrible. Forget about product hunt. Invent a new brand.
Let people submit for free but you choose when they get published. If they want to pick a date charge for that.
Some ideas: - Users should be able to update their post to some extent.
- There's no "product page" in your app, build something where I can see people commenting, reacting, and maybe even sharing their own screenshots of it because that's something PH does pretty well but can be improved.
- "LAUNCHES WORTH YOUR SCROLL" sounds kinda cringe, change to something like "Find the next best thing" or make it random on load and have a few less in your face versions of it. Reddit has "homepage of the internet" which seems appropriate. You can have "have you launched yet?", "find the next best thing", "what's trending today"...etc
I have more ideas, feel free to message me or drop a way to contact you if you'd like more feedback :)
Can we connect on Twitter/x: @heyarviind?
I get we're trying to go for "next [best thing]" but yeah I (also UK) read it as "[next best] thing" and can't think of any examples where I'd read it as the former
Note that "next bigGEST thing" also means the 2nd biggest thing.
But after reading the comments and thinking on it, I realize it's probably used more often in the context of 'second best.'
"Next big thing" is commonly used and unambiguously means what's intended here.
"Next big thing" means upcoming good thing.
They want something that isn't likely to be misinterpreted, and I've never seen that phrase used to mean "next big thing", only "second best".
Big country though, could be a regional thing.
Here's additionally a solution versus just criticism^^:
How about PoshProduct. ProductPower.
The word product screams attention to both product hunt and ProductPower users. Just make the emoji bolt your logo. Product Power! Be the first to know.
Good luck! This is awesome.
OP: I may or may not be in possession of hasitlaunched dot com, should you be interested in purchasing it…
Anyway let me know the coupon code and percentage off, i can add it manually ;)
I liked the submission flow, it was nice and simple. The only issue is that at the end of the process I got a page that looked like it was broken, so had to manually navigate to the main page.
> Product icon is required
https://www.names-hub.com/name/huntlie
Maybe consider the "Kodak recipe" for an alternative? [1]: "Keep it short, easy to pronounce, and avoid similarities to existing names or associations." (short is harder in 2024 though!)
I'm on the fence on whether the name should have meaning. There are plenty of successful companies on either side.
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1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodak#Name
"Huntly", maybe?
English has funny cases where readers will implicitly pronounce personal names differently than they might products or brands.
If it's meant to be hunt-lee per sibling comment then 'huntly' (with the domain hunt.ly) is by far the established (still-annoying) way to do that.
Looks like someone is trying to pull a Forbes...
And I guess related to you, please don't do that :)
Any ideas what that is about? Sorry I don't understand the Forbes reference.
So well that basically people were speculating the SEO part would take over the more traditional business.
Google caught up recently (as in a few weeks ago) and has heavily punished their ranks.
Ironically if you search Google for “Forbes SEO” you’ll find many articles about what happened. I think it all started with something titled “The parasitic company trying to take over Forbes”
Personal note - I used to be a pretty frequent user of ProductHunt. Some folks I worked with jokingly called me the SaaS King. If you had a problem, I knew of 3 tools to potentially solve it.
The biggest reason why I stopped using ProductHunt was because people opted to submit and upvote low quality "list of X" aggregation services and minor updates, not real products. Hopefully you've thought about how to refine the curation.
Also, agreed with the feedback from muhammadusman about having a product page. Right now, it's just a list of links with synopsis - not enough to intrigue me to explore further.
1. there is no difference before and after login. (maybe login is unsuccessful) 2. I cannot edit/delete my submitted project. 3. No search for projects. 4. No Dark mode :)
https://www.producthunt.com/products/product-hunt/alternativ...
How to correct a post?
:-)
I tried submitting https://fdeploy.com but the product icon wouldn’t upload. Which file formats are supported?
> fDeploy is a self-hosted deployment software for Windows being currently built in Stockholm, Sweden by developers with over 10 years of experience in the industry, focusing only on the most essential and most valuable features.
I'd recommend focusing on what the most valuable features are and making those the highlight. Leading with who is building it and where doesn't add much unless your team is especially well-known or noteworthy. Also, citing "10 years of experience" as social proof might not resonate strongly—it's not a differentiator for most audiences (10 years is not that long). Instead, consider showcasing the unique aspects of the product that would immediately grab attention.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41860810
Domain isn't the easiest to remember IMO.
Could I get a short pitch on what makes your alternative better/different?
The problem with ProductHunt is that it's basically the glory days are behind it. If you want to have a successful ProductHunt launch the key is simple, wait until you're established and then send an email to all your customers to upvote you.
People focus so much on having a good ProductHunt launch like it'll make a difference. They go around begging everyone they know and spamming everyone they don't know asking for an upvote. They'll spend weeks focusing on this product hunt launch and overall get less traffic than they would from posting on here with Show HN and less traffic than they would get from posting on the right subreddits.
Product Hunt and similar launch sites are just focusing don't he false hope that new founders have that the launch matters.
Honestly PH always felt to me like a time waster. “Oh look at this idea. Neat. Next.”
Now, a website where I can type in the problem I am having and it suggests solutions (with a mix of self hosted vs commercial products depending on my settings) would be super useful. For example: “I want to organize a library full of old photos that don’t have metadata” or “I want a cheap online backup solution with support for Linux servers” or “I want to automate sending personalized-feeling birthday cards to people I know professionally”.
I recommend against post anything to PH unless you have patents, or a big marketing budget, if not your idea will just be copied by big companies before you can get the word out about your product.
My startup was posted on PH, and many years later we're quite successful. We had $0 budget and it was just me at the time, and it worked out wonderfully.
That's exactly what HackerRank feels like. Same with "normal" social media like Reddit or Twitter