The deal-breaker with Hack, for me, is its curly quotes—they are just far too indistinct. A lot of monospace fonts make this mistake, although there's a pleasing number featured here that don't.
Looking at their about[0] page, it seems like Typogram is a company started by the person who also created Coding Font. That might explain the "by Typogram" label.
I saw that some of the fonts had a ligature for === making it a long congruence sign instead of three equals signs, and I avoided those like the plague.
SF Mono is by far my favorite, unfortunate it can’t be included
It can be extracted from the apple dev fonts dmg if you want to use it in your editor on a non-OSX platform
The link to the tournament looks so much like a header (which I assumed would just be a permalink to the blog post that I am reading) that I spent a full minute looking for it
I think this is a hold-out from old-school blogging, where each post would have a url that was often an external link. Feeds often reinforced this, favouring the external link over the 'blog post permalink' (I guess since, who would care about that when they already have the full text content?).
On the site's home page, the posts include a "" link which points to the post itself. I'm guessing the reason the posts don't link to themselves is another hold-out from the old-school: a page linking to itself was typically considered bad practice.
I ended looking for the link then clicking the apparently first link “Via Jason Snell”. In that page the link to the tournament is also the header (which I did not notice). The last paragraph on that page had a link to the tournament and that’s what I ended up clicking. I’m glad I’m not the only one
Not sure if anyone is like me but I don't have a favourite. In fact, no matter how much I love a font, I have to switch it every few months or I get sick of it.
Its so dependent on font size (or more accurately PPI) that its hard to pick. On my current monitor my favorite Berkely Mono looks thin and hard to read unless I bump up the size higher than I'd like. But drag it over to a Retina screen and it looks fantastic.
Yes, most (if not all) new fonts nowadays seem to assume (very) high DPI and also have no hinting for low DPI. Every time I check a font that is praised here, it looks terrible at small point sizes.
I’ve never understood how John Gruber presents himself as a connoisseur of fine UX and typography, and then for decades publishes a bland, often difficult-to-read site.
Victor Mono, an absolute pleasure to use. Though Jetbrains Mono seems to give it a run for its money. The deciding factor seems to be the italic cursive font. Just enough differentiation to really set comments apart from the meat of the code.
Funny, it gave me Roboto Mono, a font I've never used. I use whatever VS Code's default is, or IBM Plex Mono with Fira Code's ligatures when I decide to stop being lazy and go set a font. The differences between most fonts don't bother me much.
I'm a litigator and a fan of IBM Plex Mono and Plex Sans for my drafting!
(I draft and typeset my filings separately; IBM Plex would probably be viewed with disfavor in court, simply because it doesn't look like Times New Roman. I push the envelope by using Matthew Butterick's Equity family for that.)
The IBM Plex family is super, both on screen and in print — particularly for free! Very legible and well thought out.
The other typeface I prefer for my drafting is Atkinson Hyperlegible (also free).
Another MB fonts enjoyer! I like how MB designed Equity specifically to be metric-compatible with Times New Roman. Have you ever been called out for using it?
Never. In state court most people default to TNR and are blind to typography, so no one even notices. In federal, my opponents are usually the same way but many judges at least have the sense to use Palatino or something Century-like instead of TNR.
In state court appeals, we're required to use 14-point of either Arial or Bookman Old Style (double-spaced). D-: My eyes would bleed if I drafted with that typesetting — it's horrid.
Arial or Bookman Old Style?! … It's pretty hard to do worse than those two fonts. Eeesh. I'm so sorry.
I'm very glad to hear you get away with Equity. I'm well past the age where I am forced to write essays for school using TNR; when my kids are in school, if such madness persists, I'll help them swap it out for Equity and see if their teachers notice. >:)
Aside: I use the Stylus plugin for Firefox to read HN in Concourse. It makes for a more pleasant reading experience.
Because IBM Plex Sans JP exists I use the IBM Plex fonts. It's a whole lot easier than trying to pick fonts that work well together with a Japanese font. And IBM Plex looks fairly nice, so that helps.
I wish there was a version of this for proportional fonts as well. I never use monospace fonts for coding anymore if I can avoid it, but I'm still in search of the “perfect” proportional coding font.
Well, it is a pretty nonsensical name for a font. It appears to mean "unconsoled", which (a) has no valid semantics as applied to a font, since fonts don't have thoughts, moods, or feelings; and (b) has a very negative valence - being unconsoled is a bad thing.
OK, but by the time you're just picking ordinary words for the name of your product, should you have any level of concern for what those words mean? Are we going to follow up with "inconsolable"?
Even as someone who has bought many fonts for coding, including Pragmata Pro, Operator and others (i.e. not cheap ones), I was blown away that for just the Mono weights in regular and italic is nine hundred and sixty dollars.
Shame, I was curious about trying it. Operator and Pragmata go for $199.
It also irks me that I cannot buy a single user license for Sohne, but a minimum of a 5 user license.
Individual personal users just aren't type foundaries like Klim's target market. They want to land large businesses who use their typefaces as their dedicated brand font - and the pricing reflects that potential value.
I agree though that they've missed out on an opportunity to land individual personal use. They've just slapped their standard license on it, and didn't think much about it.
I became an Iosevka convert this year. If there are things about it you don't like, you can likely build a custom variant that fixes those things. There are 54 variants for the zero character, for example. Pick your poison.
https://typeof.net/Iosevka/
I like the build of Iosevka that the Zed editor people made, called Zed Mono. It's hosted on github [0] but there are no screenshots. You can see kind of how it looks in the screenshots of their editor on their website though [1]
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And to bypass the blogspam: https://www.codingfont.com/
[0] https://typogram.co/blog/about-us/
I saw that some of the fonts had a ligature for === making it a long congruence sign instead of three equals signs, and I avoided those like the plague.
I was surprised that both Fira Code and Fira Mono were options, that was a bit cheeky.
Here's the location of the Ark, for those still curious:
https://github.com/thelioncape/San-Francisco-family/tree/mas...
On the site's home page, the posts include a "" link which points to the post itself. I'm guessing the reason the posts don't link to themselves is another hold-out from the old-school: a page linking to itself was typically considered bad practice.
(I draft and typeset my filings separately; IBM Plex would probably be viewed with disfavor in court, simply because it doesn't look like Times New Roman. I push the envelope by using Matthew Butterick's Equity family for that.)
The IBM Plex family is super, both on screen and in print — particularly for free! Very legible and well thought out.
The other typeface I prefer for my drafting is Atkinson Hyperlegible (also free).
Never. In state court most people default to TNR and are blind to typography, so no one even notices. In federal, my opponents are usually the same way but many judges at least have the sense to use Palatino or something Century-like instead of TNR.
In state court appeals, we're required to use 14-point of either Arial or Bookman Old Style (double-spaced). D-: My eyes would bleed if I drafted with that typesetting — it's horrid.
I'm very glad to hear you get away with Equity. I'm well past the age where I am forced to write essays for school using TNR; when my kids are in school, if such madness persists, I'll help them swap it out for Equity and see if their teachers notice. >:)
Aside: I use the Stylus plugin for Firefox to read HN in Concourse. It makes for a more pleasant reading experience.
https://dtinth.github.io/comic-mono-font/
Ref: https://klim.co.nz/retail-fonts/soehne-mono/
Shame, I was curious about trying it. Operator and Pragmata go for $199.
It also irks me that I cannot buy a single user license for Sohne, but a minimum of a 5 user license.
I agree though that they've missed out on an opportunity to land individual personal use. They've just slapped their standard license on it, and didn't think much about it.
The site dont work very well with Safari 17.6.
I got Nanum Gothic Coding, but couldn’t find a good site to compare it with Iosevka side by side to check if they are similar
0: https://github.com/zed-industries/zed-fonts/releases
1: https://zed.dev/