Ask HN: Why are we all pretending everything is normal?
I know we’re supposed to be tech focused but I see no posts regarding the situation at large. No tech, no innovation can really grow or come about if this keeps going. Those of us who have grown up with relative freedom and the room to innovate owe it to those coming up to do something? The system isn’t perfect, but what is happening will make it worse.
What can be done?
I won’t repost this if it gets removed.
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[ 0.29 ms ] story [ 61.6 ms ] threadAuthoritarianism just seems like the next natural step. It's obvious that Americans don't intend to regulate or boycott harmful businesses, so now what? Money takes control.
Pulling one example, but it applies to all of them in different ways:
“We” decided the stock price and “our” equity was more important than, for instance, having a job that revolved around giving teen girls depression more efficiently let alone destroying the country.
There won't be any tech on a dead planet.
There have been plenty, but Hacker News has been very assiduous in flagging every one.
A lot of people support the current regime and have vested interests, political and financial, in normalizing what they want to be the new status quo.
A lot of people simply don't care unless it affects them personally, or they're simply in shock.
Either way, it's politics and Hacker News interprets politics as intellectual damage and tries to route around it. Not much one can do, this isn't a free speech platform, it's a curated speech platform.
And honestly, if you looked at how weird politic was before the World Wars and the Cold War, we may be reverting to the mean. RIP Pax Americana
indie/ low tech is rare.
people striving for symbiotic methods are even rarer.
the now got reduced to a ticktockish attention span and sphere. even among artists.
the buck counts more than the message. the message is no more than "compensation". "i blinded myself, mhwiwiwi"
fuFAANG/Fortune5000 are more vulnerable than todlers but even peeps with toddlers don't "transcend" ...
it's a full metal jacket kind of rationale ... "better u now and the rest of us later than me boss now" ...
it's just a couple of million years, don't worry.
the huge rock implicitly linked to the development of Earth doesn't know mercy.
life will evolve somewhere far away yet again. only a matter of time until your genes get combined again, ... if you are not among the reasons why that rock got on its way, that is ... like too many of 'dem dinosaurs, 'member?
There’s clearly an ideological tipping point for some people that’s essentially a point-of-no-return, whereafter they view anyone who differs from them, however slightly, as an existential threat and an enemy to be dominated. It doesn’t matter if your ideology is left or right, if you think that way, it’s very aggressive.
In general, I think people should try to borrow their ideology from all parts of the political spectrum as what fits one situation, doesn’t work for another. The overall goal, I think, should be to optimize for both social stability and individual liberties, as both of those facets of society have historically shown to result in the most productive and effective societies and economies.
Do younger folks continue to tilt conservative? Maybe, but older Republican voters keep aging out. I see this like Brexit; squeaked by and then the old folks who tipped it died out over the next few years. How much damage there will be to repair is to be determined.
Trump has already walked back several of his campaign promises, such as reducing inflation on food. Does it count if you won if you lied to your base to do it? I think it's important people get what they vote for, otherwise, they may not make better decisions if they don't feel the consequences of their actions.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/01/20/trump-ele... | https://archive.is/2025.01.23-145837/https://www.washingtonp...
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/07/12/10-facts-...
https://apnews.com/article/trump-inflation-grocery-prices-en...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-walking-back-biggest-campai...
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/USA-TRUMP/BUDGET/xmvjbqgmkv...
I am not sure if people will find these policies favorable in the future, but based on the recent election results the republicans vote house, senate and the presidency. While their margins are slim, which is fine, the fact remains that people voted a certain way because that’s what they wanted.
You’re absolutely right that the margins are too slim, and so the federal government should do its best not to alienate states that don’t think like it. State rights are still important, and should be maintained.
Yes, it still counts. Show me a president who kept his campaign promises. We don't get to re-do the election when the president is proven to have lied.
Stronger: I like to be allowed the privilege to be smarter today than I was yesterday. We should extend politicians the same privilege, rather than requiring them to be stupid today because they were stupid yesterday.
(Do I think that Trump was lying? Either that, or speaking with reckless disregard for the truth. Of course he was. My money's on "reckless disregard", but I don't think it makes much difference.)
The basic idea is that populism does not become the new norm (as per poster legitster) except for a period of maybe 8 - 10 years. Grassroots populism provides a corrective when the ruling elites have lost touch with the chief concerns of the people. Both the Democrats and the Republicans will tweak their platforms to incorporate some of these ideas, and having done their job, the populists will fade away. Before this wave of populism departs, there will probably be a bipartisan agreement that DEI programs have gotten out of control, that gender reassignment surgery for children is a bad idea, that the first amendment to the Constitution is a good thing and should be defended. (That last sentence, "Before this wave of populism departs..." reflects my speculation, not that of Eli Lake.)
Populism was just a way to get their foot in the door. The general public has been duped as to their intentions.
The most sensible way forward would be in the spirit of Aaron Swartz's realization that the political operating system was sick and now needs urgent care. And so no enduring reform can be realized from within because of vested interested benefit from the ever sliding status quo. This demands a broad base of ordinary people to overthrow the oligarchs using deliberate, peaceful means by the multitudes. The time still isn't ripe yet, but the time is coming for a necessary and essential reset back to sane adult competent leaders who listen to the people irrespective of money, and provide public administration for the benefit of the majority of folks. Small government is no panacea when the billionaires' rival the state in power and influence, smart government not influenced by big money is where the US needs to be to thrive and to continue. Perhaps America should do representative democracy differently with a variant of sortition rather than celebrity popularity contests sold by mass media.
1. Can the next administration fix everything. Can they undo all of the crazy things happening.
2. Will we get into a civil war situation. Just watch the movie. It’s real possibility at any moment.
3. Some of the executive orders directly hurt the people in the fly over states and other southern areas. Will they finally see the person they elected cares nothing about them?
2. We probably won't get into a civil war. I'd say the probability is no more than 5%. That's a bit like saying "There's a 5% chance that I'll into a traffic accident today, and I like those odds".
3. No, they will not change their minds. They will see any negative outcomes as the fault of their political and international opponents, and evidence that they need to do the same things harder.