It does. They just usually don't have cash on hand to get out of the fuck ups from doing zero rational financial analysis and disappear in a puff of smoke 6 months down the line.
I dislike twitter just as much as the next guy, but i was able to read the conversation without logging in. EU exit point here. Maybe that plays a role?
having to click through each single image is quiet the turn-off though. not missing the platform
I can see the first post on Twitter, but nothing else. Also in the EU. It seems to be fairly random, really. Probably best to go with a fully working social network where available for this sort of post.
nevermind. turns out someone else had logged into twitter and forgot to log out. i didn't notice because i haven't been using the site in ages. please ignore my initial comment
As much as I hate Twitter I was unable to read this @ Bluesky at my iPhone 13 Mini because left/right arrows covered words, this is a mobile design straight from the mid 00s. So bad.
From the perspective of the “engineer”’s responses, I’m guessing by this is a VERY senior engineer, maybe a technical fellow or whatever Facebook calls them.
Yeah, like just below the CTO or whoever probably. Even then they just quickly switch to just kinda bouncing the whatever Zuck comes up with back at them.
Also possible that he pinged a random junior engineer for a fresh perspective. Social media trends tend to start with a younger audience. However the engineers’s comment on team assets implies seniority.
Seems like Zuckerberg had already made up his mind and needed an engineer to positively confirm his desired path through a very power imbalanced chat...
No shade towards the engineer at all, but besides the very first "My instinct is” comment the engineer literally could have just been ChatGPT and Zuck would have gotten a similar convo.
I dont think one could reason that. Maybe some insight: The author is an engineer and had worked at Google and published the Goomics strip internally. It is also available at https://goomics.net/62
I'm not sure it's a bullshit answer at all. They present pros and cons. Zuck can then take them into consideration, given wider strategic consideration.
I don't feel that the engineer answered poorly at all. They're answering a really broad strategic question, with no / very little hard data to go off of -- of course their answer is vague, there's very little certainty about anything in the question (not even price of acquisition!). I think they accurately call out the benefits and risks of the different paths. IMO this is as much as can be expected. Before "pulling trigger" on any of these decisions, there will have to be a lot more analysis, negotiation, etc, that they're just not going to get to in a dm. If the engineer was the kind of person to give a single definitive answer in this situation, I don't think they would be trusted with this kind of conversation.
I had the same thought, this sounds like ChatGPT!
Then again, doesn't most corporate communication?
Or maybe it's the other way round and ChatGPT sounds like corporate fluff because it was trained like that?
From Zuckerberg's messages, it appears that an important motivation for buying Instagram was to limit the competition facing Facebook.
Thanks Obama for enforcing the Sherman Antitrust Act:
> SECTION 1. Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is hereby declared to be illegal. Every person who shall make any contract or engage in any combination or conspiracy hereby declared to be illegal shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on con-viction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court.
[Discussing Instagram prior to Facebook acquisition.]
"Mark: Hmm. Engagement metrics?
Engineer: 23 mins daily per user. Teens. 94% return weekly. But here's the kicker: Their EXIF scraper tags locations silently. Imagine layering that with FB's graph. Hyper-local ads without asking.
If you are not logged into a Twitter [1] account it usually only shows you the post, not any replies. Some people who are not logged in do get to see the whole thread but I haven't seen anyone figure out how it decides who gets that privilege.
Usually you can work around that by changing this host from x.com to xcancel.com.
[1] I continue to call it Twitter rather than X because Twitter is easier to search for. For example if you wanted to find all my comments here about or mentioning Twitter a comment search for "author:tzs twitter" would find them. There are very few, if any, times that the string "twitter" occurs in my corpus of HN comments where it isn't referring to the social media service formerly known as Twitter.
A search for "author:tzs x" on the other hand will overwhelming bring up comments that have nothing to do with that social media service.
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having to click through each single image is quiet the turn-off though. not missing the platform
No shade towards the engineer at all, but besides the very first "My instinct is” comment the engineer literally could have just been ChatGPT and Zuck would have gotten a similar convo.
[1] https://bonkersworld.net/organizational-charts
PS: Later he worked at Twitter and commented that also: https://twittoons.com/
Much more useful than "this one".
It’s more interesting that Zuckerberg would ask this, at least to me.
Thanks Obama for enforcing the Sherman Antitrust Act:
> SECTION 1. Every contract, combination in the form of trust or otherwise, or conspiracy, in restraint of trade or commerce among the several States, or with foreign nations, is hereby declared to be illegal. Every person who shall make any contract or engage in any combination or conspiracy hereby declared to be illegal shall be deemed guilty of a felony, and, on con-viction thereof, shall be punished by fine not exceeding $100,000,000 if a corporation, or, if any other person, $1,000,000, or by imprisonment not exceeding 10 years, or by both said punishments, in the discretion of the court.
"Mark: Hmm. Engagement metrics?
Engineer: 23 mins daily per user. Teens. 94% return weekly. But here's the kicker: Their EXIF scraper tags locations silently. Imagine layering that with FB's graph. Hyper-local ads without asking.
Mark: Go on.
Engineer: They're a Trojan horse."
Usually you can work around that by changing this host from x.com to xcancel.com.
[1] I continue to call it Twitter rather than X because Twitter is easier to search for. For example if you wanted to find all my comments here about or mentioning Twitter a comment search for "author:tzs twitter" would find them. There are very few, if any, times that the string "twitter" occurs in my corpus of HN comments where it isn't referring to the social media service formerly known as Twitter.
A search for "author:tzs x" on the other hand will overwhelming bring up comments that have nothing to do with that social media service.