I'm out of the loop, what bashing and abuse? Every time I've seen Asahi mentioned, everyone here's falling over themselves to remark on how impressive a technical achievement it is.
It generally gets flagged, but there's definitely been some bad comments.
I don't think that what I've seen, if directed at me, would get the same response -- but I obviously don't see it all, nor have it directed at me, so it's not really fair for me to say.
I too had the impression people here love asahi Linux. But as the comment said those negative posts tend to disappear.
I’m not fully onboard (I don’t have a MacBook, supporting closed hw from a single vendor) but I see the appeal, and to me getting more people using Linux is major plus that outweighs the negatives. I’m not going to tell people who are generously donating their time to something not to do so.
Look at older posts with showdead on - there's a lot of personal attacks, claims about vtuber identity, trans hate, etc. It's been a bit more chill recently, but the history is there. (apart from the recent https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43406393 which has lots of terrible people again)
A fair assessment might be that instead of a large number of regular users leaving bad comments there is a small number, potentially even one, that spin up sock accounts to make a disproportionally larger number of bigoted comments.
"with showdead on" -- that's the point, isn't it? Personal attacks against people involved with Asahi are swiftly downvoted and killed. I guess the project members would like them to be actually deleted, but that's not really how HN works.
Several down-thread comments speculate that the banner is due to recent events. Some form of an HN block or banner has been present since 2023-03-21[1] (well, until about an hour ago[2]).
HN threads about Asahi, while generally positive about the project, also tend to include trans hate and speculation about a pseudonymous developer's identity. Those comments are often "dead", but show up on search engines. This has caused real harm in the lives of Asahi's trans and pseudonymous developers.
Amazing to see Asahi Linux push ahead despite the headwinds - gaining D3D12 AND microphone support AND fex, AND bundled nicely up with all the goodies in Fedora 42.
Thanks to a very small number of generous humans your M-series Macbook will still be usable even after Apple declares it vintage - and in the meantime you have an alternative which works better for gaming, and hardware support will only keep getting better.
Congrats to those whose work made this update such a bonanza.
I’d be very happy if they could introduce disk encryption by default or maybe with a yes/no question during the installation. Because the current way to do it is a little bit to difficult and unsafe for me to be honest:
The beamforming bit is neat. I have no personal experience with it, but I was surprised that 2cm separation between the microphones was enough. Do any other laptops use this technique for noise rejection?
> Given the nature of what we do, this can mean spending upwards of $10,000 a year on Macs.
Please know that donating isn’t just about helping the developers financially, it’s also needed just to purchase new Mac’s every year to test & support (because each new M-series requires additional development to work).
You need a specific organization structure, registration, and certain documentation requirements to be a formal non-profit organization. Asahi Linux doesn't seem to have that.
As I understand it’s very unlikely to happen anytime soon as the M1/2 GPUs are very similar but M3 has a completely new architecture. With their reduced staff and the GPU in the M1/2 being notoriously simple in retrospect we’re probably years away.
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And there aren’t all that many comments yet.
Nobody has any doubts left at this point in time.
Whole deal is ridiculous.
I too had the impression people here love asahi Linux. But as the comment said those negative posts tend to disappear.
I’m not fully onboard (I don’t have a MacBook, supporting closed hw from a single vendor) but I see the appeal, and to me getting more people using Linux is major plus that outweighs the negatives. I’m not going to tell people who are generously donating their time to something not to do so.
My read is this is a case of a person taking on a huge project and burning out emotionally.
Here we are, still able to see that content.. and so can search engines and AI.
No one here at HN has done anything to remove the content that only exists to attack and demean, even though it looks like troll accounts.
We down vote it, flag it, hide it, but it's still there.
I don't know much about this particular situation, but I can empathize.
I'm out of loop, but I demand a dark mode. Burning my eye balls was enough -.-
HN threads about Asahi, while generally positive about the project, also tend to include trans hate and speculation about a pseudonymous developer's identity. Those comments are often "dead", but show up on search engines. This has caused real harm in the lives of Asahi's trans and pseudonymous developers.
[1]: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/AsahiLinux.github.io/commit/a7...
[2]: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/AsahiLinux.github.io/commit/e0...
Thanks to a very small number of generous humans your M-series Macbook will still be usable even after Apple declares it vintage - and in the meantime you have an alternative which works better for gaming, and hardware support will only keep getting better.
Congrats to those whose work made this update such a bonanza.
https://davidalger.com/posts/fedora-asahi-remix-on-apple-sil...
One of which apologizes on behalf of HN, and thanks Asahi and assures them a majority is grateful for their work.
Another, like most of us, curious, wondering why the reaction is so unhinged, and finding every post from the site is treated this way.
What is the actual proof of that?
There are a few other oddities, but nothing 100% that I'd feel comfortable repeating as I don't have an opinion whether it's true or not.
Please know that donating isn’t just about helping the developers financially, it’s also needed just to purchase new Mac’s every year to test & support (because each new M-series requires additional development to work).
You can donate here: https://asahilinux.org/support/
This project is not a non-profit organization.
I'd love to see a ledger, rather than blindly trust donations are used responsibly.
Who even owns the donation account?
If so, where can I buy Asahi Linux for use? Or pay for Asahi Linux software support?
Regarding wanting to see a ledger, their Board minutes can be read here: https://asahilinux.org/docs/project/board/asahi-board/