EDIT: As per post below, other thread is sadly flagged. Since this is a very serious escalation of attacks on due process I've removed my request to close this new thread.
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I think it's relevant information because it shows how dangerous this government is. They're not "deporting illegal immigrants," they're trying to destroy the Bill of Rights.
This after three years of hearing the right shout about "free speech".
> If the Department of State issues you an F or M student visa, this means that you are coming to the United States to study. You should not take any action that detracts from that purpose. Maintaining your status means:
> Fulfilling the purpose for why the Department of State issued you your visa.
> Following the regulations associated with that purpose.
She isn't being charged with a crime. What are you talking about? What does engaging in politics outside her county have to do with education?
I think this highlights how unconstitutional this administration is being. When the news first broke, nobody knew and it made sense not to put a guess in a headline.
Now they’ve responded with some very strong accusations which could be included because they’re actually saying something in public about it:
> DHS and (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege, not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security.
Of course, none of this is warranted - there’s no active threat and they could have followed the legal process but based on how quickly they moved her to Louisiana I suspect they’re hoping to blow off the court orders long enough to get her out of the country.
Because all of their claims are pig shit. I am personally one to extend a large assumption of good faith. And I'm not some Democratic partisan but rather a libertarian who would say "both sides" as recently as 2020. But after years of steelmanning and trying to engage with where they are coming from, at this point the dynamic is irrefutable - claiming to want freedom of speech, claiming other American freedoms like gun rights, claiming to want law and order, claiming to care about spending or inflation, claiming to want small government, claiming to want accountability, draping themselves in the flag while claiming to love this country, claiming to be the victims of their fellow citizens' unwarranted criticism - all of these references to lofty ideals are just to abuse good people's assumption of good faith while running interference for autocratic authoritarianism, red in tooth and claw, as they burn this country to the ground with their whiny grievance politics.
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They Thought They Were Free
The Germans, 1933-45
Milton Mayer
https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.htm
I think it's one of the most important quotes Americans should read at this time in their history.
We happen to have a thing called the First Amendment. Whatever she said, or whatever the press published, is constitutionally permissible.
This after three years of hearing the right shout about "free speech".
> Fulfilling the purpose for why the Department of State issued you your visa.
> Following the regulations associated with that purpose.
She isn't being charged with a crime. What are you talking about? What does engaging in politics outside her county have to do with education?
https://studyinthestates.dhs.gov/students/maintaining-status
Now they’ve responded with some very strong accusations which could be included because they’re actually saying something in public about it:
> DHS and (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) investigations found Ozturk engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization that relishes the killing of Americans. A visa is a privilege, not a right. Glorifying and supporting terrorists who kill Americans is grounds for visa issuance to be terminated. This is commonsense security.
Of course, none of this is warranted - there’s no active threat and they could have followed the legal process but based on how quickly they moved her to Louisiana I suspect they’re hoping to blow off the court orders long enough to get her out of the country.
That's it, that's all there is.