I am 100% sure you do this in ANY businesses in East Asia (small medium or big), you get the boot too. I know cases in Japan and South Korea doing this kind of stunts even if just posting to intetnal forums get one fired. China depends, they are more sensitive to anything related to government matters or potential customers lost.
Yep! And sure in the 1700's when kings ruled the world that was great! But in the 2000's when CEOs rule the world, we may need to think about extending free speech protections a bit.
Why should you have the right to disrupt a company meeting? Do I have the unmitigated right to come into your sprint planning and scream at you? Does no one have the right to choose not to associate with you if you make yourself unpleasant to be around, or do we all just have to suffer the biggest fool, always and all the time?
Why is your, or this engineer’s speech, more worth protecting than mine, my boss’s, or Nadella’s?
So tired of this nonsense. I don’t want to hear about your shitty politics at work. If you don’t like what your company is doing, quit and do something else.
You are highlighting the fundamental tension at the center of this continuing issue.
This isn’t unique to the genocide of Palestinians. This is happening repeatedly in multiple contexts across essentially all very large organizations.
It is, I submit, a manifestation of collectivist actions. Usually that doesn’t intersect politics inside a business, but as more and more horrific things are being perpetrated or aided by the businesses that employ politically interested people, it’s happening more and more.
I posit that it’s also a choice. You can choose to curtail your speech or scream it from the rooftops, at any given time. You might sign some kind of agreement with a non-disparagement clause and then decide that you wish to speak out in ways that break that agreement.
The speech was free of government interference, the private consequences are the price of and necessity of moral courage. Otherwise, it wouldn't be courageous.
While that is technically true, the extent to which that distinction matters is highly variable. There’s nothing fundamentally different about dissenting in a public or private space, it’s just a matter of degrees.
But I’ll grant you that every action has repercussions and absolutely no one should be surprised about the repercussions this employee faced.
Can you share examples of a CEO’s public speech at a conference being disrupted with them being accused of being accessory to murder by an employee and the employee remaining in good standing?
Palantir, Anduril, Lockheed Martin, Apple, Amazon, Boeing - the list could go on. Many of them don't even deny it, they just try to distract with "look at our health products" and "we saved X amount of lives" rhetoric.
Depends on the company. In Palantir's case, the CEO was happy to accept the question at face-value without attacking the employee ad-hominem: https://youtu.be/0mhNLTy5pbQ
This isnt an exception to free speech. He is not being persecuted by the government. He is free to look for other employment if he disagrees with his current employers business practices.
The first amendment protects from government. Private enterprises are free to do as they please.
There is no amendment ensuring the right to disrupt others to focus attention on yourself nor is there anything anymore encoded into the Constitution that allows a different class of behavior because of wealth or class (so neither entitlement nor a sense of grandiosity are protected)
As someone who is incredibly sympathetic towards this issue, this person had to know they would be fired over this. I'm glad they (the protester) did it. More people should do this. It's not free speech though. It's civil disobedience.
The crackdown at universities is absolutely a free speech issue.
There’s nothing sacred about the relationship between employers and employees. If you think something is horribly wrong it’s your prerogative if you want to protest. You’ll probably have to eat the consequences though.
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[ 38.5 ms ] story [ 1177 ms ] threadWhy is your, or this engineer’s speech, more worth protecting than mine, my boss’s, or Nadella’s?
So tired of this nonsense. I don’t want to hear about your shitty politics at work. If you don’t like what your company is doing, quit and do something else.
This isn’t unique to the genocide of Palestinians. This is happening repeatedly in multiple contexts across essentially all very large organizations.
It is, I submit, a manifestation of collectivist actions. Usually that doesn’t intersect politics inside a business, but as more and more horrific things are being perpetrated or aided by the businesses that employ politically interested people, it’s happening more and more.
These tantrums are garbage and the only defense is fake moralizing and weird obfuscated language like yours.
Meanwhile plain-spoken people think this behavior sucks.
Free Speech is a value
But I’ll grant you that every action has repercussions and absolutely no one should be surprised about the repercussions this employee faced.
The first amendment protects from government. Private enterprises are free to do as they please.
The crackdown at universities is absolutely a free speech issue.
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You have not earned the right to direct the attention of others.
You have violated the sacred trust placed in you by your employer by exploiting your access to a public-facing employer event.
If you cannot control your thymotic impulses where you earn your food and shelter, then you cannot be trusted again.
You must accept the consequences of your moral convictions.
This is dharmic justice.
There’s nothing sacred about the relationship between employers and employees. If you think something is horribly wrong it’s your prerogative if you want to protest. You’ll probably have to eat the consequences though.