These reports are always so hard to interpret. There is a very strong incentive for involved parties to come up with alternate explanations when accidents occur in all accidents, not just gun accidents. In certain types of vehicle accidents it’s common for people to claim the vehicle accelerated by itself or that they were pressing the brake when they were actually pressing the accelerator.
The claimed incident with security footage would be interesting to see, or at least read a detailed report about. I’m curious how they confirmed the safety was on from security camera footage.
Unless I’m missing something, it looks like people who have tried to replicate the problem with repeated tests so far cannot do it. This seems like a goldmine for YouTubers looking to get headlines if they can make it happen.
I do think its dumb for the army to go with these striker fired sidearms. As opposed to a double action / single action like the Beretta they used to have. The benefit of striker fired is you can fire the first round a fraction of a second faster.. I wonder how many times in history has that actually mattered for a sidearm in the army.
And the cops are just copying what the army went with. They do not have enough firearms training to be carrying those.
The latest consensus take is the striker safety can fail due to tolerance stacking in certain production runs.
Due to the nature of the higher spring tension and stored momentum of the P320's striker, when the striker safety fails, it can cause the gun to spontaneously fire.
Other striker-fired pistols (e.g Glocks and S&W Shields) have lighter strikers and/or less tension so even if their striker safety failed, it wouldn't be enough to cause a primer detonation.
Justin Taylor's take is Military Pistols Don't Actually Matter [0]. My argument would be: "If they don't actually matter except as one step before charging with bayonets, then why not use the safest and most reliable polymer plinker purlionable?" My devil's advocate retort to... myself... "But then the vendor who bribed their Congressperson and gave jobs to retired generals would get mad."
PS: Both of my grandpas were USAAC/USAF WW2 vets who happened to be competitive pistol marksmen. It was more of a sport for them than anything essential to their MOSes. I OOTH, have Parkinson-like hand tremors and don't trust my aim beyond 5m.
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[ 2.6 ms ] story [ 25.8 ms ] threadThey've probably got 90 days to do a recall with a real fix or US soldiers will be carrying Glocks.
The claimed incident with security footage would be interesting to see, or at least read a detailed report about. I’m curious how they confirmed the safety was on from security camera footage.
Unless I’m missing something, it looks like people who have tried to replicate the problem with repeated tests so far cannot do it. This seems like a goldmine for YouTubers looking to get headlines if they can make it happen.
And the cops are just copying what the army went with. They do not have enough firearms training to be carrying those.
Air Force unit suspends use of Sig Sauer pistol after shooting death of airman - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44674123 - July 2025 (406 comments)
also:
Sig Sauer guns hanging on soldiers' hips may be firing without trigger pull - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41087518 - July 2024 (37 comments)
Due to the nature of the higher spring tension and stored momentum of the P320's striker, when the striker safety fails, it can cause the gun to spontaneously fire.
Other striker-fired pistols (e.g Glocks and S&W Shields) have lighter strikers and/or less tension so even if their striker safety failed, it wouldn't be enough to cause a primer detonation.
0. https://youtu.be/eRlzblOE1-c
PS: Both of my grandpas were USAAC/USAF WW2 vets who happened to be competitive pistol marksmen. It was more of a sport for them than anything essential to their MOSes. I OOTH, have Parkinson-like hand tremors and don't trust my aim beyond 5m.