Society has already collapsed and we are on a slow roll to dubious decay.
You see, society to too big to fail. Even when core virtues (precepts) are invalidated (eroding competence and moral lawful claim), society as a collective organism eating and shitting to survive will just keep on going.
There may be upsets, though sudden and dramatic change are not how these things work (however they appear post dramatically).
Slow gradual decline is like erosion, looks fine one day, fifteen years later when you’re dealing with something else the foundation gives.
We won’t riot war and starve out, we will be dejected apathetic and morose while what we love in it all dwindles into an old song.
Hot take, but I don't care. There's not much I can do if it does collapse. I have emergency food, water, but it's not like I can do anything else if people start pillaging. In the meanwhile, I have far more things to worry about that i can control such as taking care about my family, making sure my finances are in order, am eating healthy, etc.
If European society survived the Black Plague we will be fine. Imagine living in a time where an unknown virus kills half of the population. Half of everyone you know is gone. This is only one of countless examples throughout history.
No doubt today we have unique challenges but I am optimistic we will overcome and thrive. Like a poster mentioned above, perhaps its time to log off and go for a walk.
I'm sorry, European society didn't survive the black plague if the term "survive" means anything but avoiding utter obliteration.
Entire cities were ravaged and collapsed - half of the entire population died not only from the disease but the ensuring famine resulting from supply chain collapse. Cultures were erased in their entirety, wars were started that lasted an entire lifetime, it defined the socioeconomic landscape of the world that came after. It's one of the reasons the Mongol Empire collapsed, religion took a stronger hold, and peasantry rose!
Now we live in a much different world. Tens of millions in a single city, utterly reliant on importants. Farming that requires fertilizer imports and machines.
It wouldn't be extinction, but a similar event would be utterly horrific and absolutely qualify as a collapse of society.
Do I think society will collapse on 10 years because of politics / economy? No, absolutely not. But to point to the black death and say it didn't collapse society is utterly ridiculous.
I think it collapsed at least ten years ago and we're all just going through the motions because acknowledging it is too unpleasant.
In all seriousness societal collapse is extremely slow and not particularly eventful. Look at South Africa if you want to see what that actually looks like in real life. It's not like how Hollywood shows it.
I think it's also important to remember society is not the economy. It's more of a spiritual/social thing that the economy exists within. That's why I can say it's already gone and people just haven't fully acknowledged it.
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[ 2.2 ms ] story [ 33.4 ms ] threadYou see, society to too big to fail. Even when core virtues (precepts) are invalidated (eroding competence and moral lawful claim), society as a collective organism eating and shitting to survive will just keep on going.
There may be upsets, though sudden and dramatic change are not how these things work (however they appear post dramatically).
Slow gradual decline is like erosion, looks fine one day, fifteen years later when you’re dealing with something else the foundation gives.
We won’t riot war and starve out, we will be dejected apathetic and morose while what we love in it all dwindles into an old song.
No doubt today we have unique challenges but I am optimistic we will overcome and thrive. Like a poster mentioned above, perhaps its time to log off and go for a walk.
Entire cities were ravaged and collapsed - half of the entire population died not only from the disease but the ensuring famine resulting from supply chain collapse. Cultures were erased in their entirety, wars were started that lasted an entire lifetime, it defined the socioeconomic landscape of the world that came after. It's one of the reasons the Mongol Empire collapsed, religion took a stronger hold, and peasantry rose!
Now we live in a much different world. Tens of millions in a single city, utterly reliant on importants. Farming that requires fertilizer imports and machines.
It wouldn't be extinction, but a similar event would be utterly horrific and absolutely qualify as a collapse of society.
Do I think society will collapse on 10 years because of politics / economy? No, absolutely not. But to point to the black death and say it didn't collapse society is utterly ridiculous.
The markets might collapse. And then stay stagnant. That is not see type of price growth we have seen. But whole society is not going anywhere.
In all seriousness societal collapse is extremely slow and not particularly eventful. Look at South Africa if you want to see what that actually looks like in real life. It's not like how Hollywood shows it.
I think it's also important to remember society is not the economy. It's more of a spiritual/social thing that the economy exists within. That's why I can say it's already gone and people just haven't fully acknowledged it.