Show HN: Amber – better Beeper, a modern all-in-one messenger (useamber.app)

as much as i want something like this to exist... fool me once, shame on thee; fool me twice, shame on me

with that being said, good luck!

You need screenshots on the front page. Put one front and center next to your hero text so it's right there above the fold.

Three random services only, and "AI" for some reasons...

Pidgin at least supports service plugins and many more protocols, and doesn't have AI, which is a big plus when we're talking about private messaging.

Not what I want to see from the homepage for an app that wants to read all of my messages.

> Secure Connection Failed

> An error occurred during a connection to useamber.app. PR_CONNECT_RESET_ERROR

Before I would even consider something like this:

* Where's your privacy policy?

* What/how are you handling the different customer protection laws? What juristictions are you working in? Where's the data hosted?

* Where's the design description?

* What encryption are you actually using? If you rolled your own, then well.. good luck.

* How could you ensure end-to-end encryption over multiple protocols, without either completely reverse engineering said protocols? If your answer here would be that you're using a central server where messages get passed between services (and thus decrypted), it isn't end-to-end.

The site is also very flaky. Sometimes it loads, sometimes it doesn't. There are so many questions, and zero answers.

> All messages are end-to-end encrypted and go straight from your device to the network of choice – never touching our servers.

Just because the messages themselves aren't proxied doesn't mean a service can't steal the content on the end device. I'm obviously not saying you _are_ doing that, but the trust issue is my biggest issue here.

Looks neat, I'm a little concerned about your iMessage support, is this even allowed by Apple? You might find some resistance on that front.

Google only login :(.

if you can make the UI/UX of this better than messages, whatsapps, etc combined, then I'd be willing to pay money for it.

Is your AI implementation on device only or is it making use of a 3rd party service (OpenAI, Anthropic, Google etc.)?

This is super cool, but unfortunately has to be open source and with signed reproducible builds.

How are you supporting iMessage? What method?

These tools always fall short, not because the teams making them are bad, but because the underlying chat tools they build on are adversarial to the idea of a third-party UI replacing their UI. A new entrant might escape their ire for a while, of course.

Mac only.

I'm most interested in the CRM. I'm a Linux and Android user, so there's currently nothing for me to try, but a page dedicated to the CRM features might get my email address on your mailing list.

Good luck!

I think beeper does have folders right?

Also the fact is that I don't need AI included into this software.

Its nice that it never touches your server but beeper is also moving forward in that direction and beeper is also open source and uses the matrix protocol so you can actually be free to use any matrix clients.

What about yours? As someone who uses beeper for talking with insta chats with my friends, I have no regrets picking beeper.

Cool, I like to see more innovation in this space.

You obviously have different needs than what Beeper provides, but claiming it's better when you only support a fraction of the networks is a bit steep imo.

Curious what other networks you plan to support and what are your monetization plans?

I really like the addition of folders and CRM features compared to Beeper.

The networks I'm interested in are Telegram (you already got that), Signal, Instagram, Matrix, Threema, Slack and Teams (in that order).

>Personal CRM

Interesting to hear I'm not the only one who's found the need to write something like this.

You write all messages multiple times, them clarify it's only 3 services. Stop that. If it doesn't support everything mainstream, don't claim "all".

Would love you to add Signal, as well as DMs in Instagram, Twitter, Bluesky, LinkedIn.

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Light mode and Apple font please

Are there any open source clients for this out there? Also, if someone were to build that, what are the protocols one would even use to get these things talking to each other and reconciling the different accounts quirks

Niceeee