My friends and I used to visit this site a lot in high school and got kicks out of reading experiences for the more "hardcore" drugs like nightshade. Who knows how many of them were legit, but it was a great stoner activity. Glad to see this site is still around.
This site is an "old internet" gem and I hope it never changes. I saw Earth and Fire (the creators of the project) speak at the Psychedelic Science conference a few years ago, quite a treat! Genuinely great people oozing integrity
I'm curious how people go about finding safe sources for something like LSD (to be clear I'm not asking for anyone to give specific details, just an explanation). While psilocybin is easy to try safely (just travel to a place where it is legal), LSD is illegal in every jurisdiction as far as I know. The thought of ingesting some substance from dubious sources, that could be contaminated with absolutely anything, terrifies me and I honestly don't know how people bring themselves to take this kind of risk. Am I missing the point and there is some safe underground supply chain for this sort of thing?
you would go to where trustworthy people are selling it. you would have your friend try it first if purchased from random street dealer. i think many of these get confused in the street, like how would you know it is true lsd and not some other research chemical?
in america there are pockets of psychadelic support that would provide clean sources, you'd maybe network with them through campus norml groups, or that cool chemistry TA. these people have zero incentive to sell you something different or contaminate it with anything (more work).
when it is dosed correctly, you can take a small dose of lsd and see if it is the effect you recognize or something else. definitely just do some homework to make sure that it can be trusted.
There used to be some darkweb marketplaces that were extremely reliable for psychedelics, for example "The Majestic Garden" was an old PHP message board which specialized in psychedelics and had a strict whitelist about what substances could be sold. TMG has since shut down unfortunately, but there are lots of other providers. Some "well-known" manufacturers used to hang around TMG, and if a listing on some other site mentions that it's their LSD then IMO it's a good place to start. General methodology is to get a burner laptop running some secure *nix OS (ie. Tails), acquire some Monero, navigate to an appropriate marketplace via Tor, and make your purchase. Use your real address and name for the shipping; it seems scary but in the US it's the most secure way (least likely to trigger a warrant being issued to search your package). Once that's done you head over to dancesafe.org on your normal laptop and order what they recommend for LSD reagent testing. Then you wait for everything to arrive, follow the instructions in the reagent testing kit, and if everything comes out "okay" then you're good to go.
In general it's fairly rare for someone to sell "fake" or "cut" LSD. This is for two broad reasons:
1. LSD isn't addictive in the same way as some other illegal substances, so there's much less profit in faking it. If you sell someone fake LSD and they have an awful trip they're never going to buy from you again and you've burned a profit stream. If you sell someone coke cut with meth they're probably going to come back anyways, because they're hooked on the drug.
2. The things you might adulterate or fake LSD with (ex. NBOMe) are also somewhat difficult and expensive to make, so it's not like one would really save much time or money. If you're trying to burn someone in an LSD sale, the simplest and most profitable thing to do would be to just sell empty blotter paper, rather than wasting research chemicals you could potentially sell to some psychonaut with the correct label.
With that said NBOMe and some other synthetics have been cropping up in the last 20-ish years. If someone at a party or festival is selling single tabs that's definitely the place where you might get burned with NBOMe, since by the time your trip ends the dealer will be long gone. In general it's always best to test everything you ingest, and dancesafe.org is definitely the place to get info on how to test stuff.
This is funded by the mushroom dispensary stores operating in the open in Vancouver. LSD is very low risk for adulterants, partly because it’s cheap to produce and is somewhat separate from other supply chains, partly because the effective dose is so small, but it never hurts to send in a sample of anything, particularly white powders.
when I was a teenager back in web pre-alpha erowid either put me in grave danger or saved my life, depending on whether you emphasize the drug use or the fact that I survived it relatively unscathed
This site helped me tremendously in my youth, with staying safe and giving me actual knowledge about different chemicals, rather than the complete abstinence information from programs like DARE. At one point, I found that a psychoactive chemical I was taking had a serious side effect with a prescription I was taking, and that information was nowhere to be found through web searches. Without Erowid, I definitely would have permanently damaged my liver! I don't think we should necessarily be marketing psychoactives to the youth, but I'm glad that this type of information is available for those that choose to search for it.
I love erowid. It is a very thorouly handcrafted factual database of real information on any drug, including personal experiences, hepatoxicity, addixtiveness, etc. without any one sided agenda. I hope it stays for many years
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Well, there went two hours of my morning, and I only made it halfway through the comments.
in america there are pockets of psychadelic support that would provide clean sources, you'd maybe network with them through campus norml groups, or that cool chemistry TA. these people have zero incentive to sell you something different or contaminate it with anything (more work).
when it is dosed correctly, you can take a small dose of lsd and see if it is the effect you recognize or something else. definitely just do some homework to make sure that it can be trusted.
In general it's fairly rare for someone to sell "fake" or "cut" LSD. This is for two broad reasons:
1. LSD isn't addictive in the same way as some other illegal substances, so there's much less profit in faking it. If you sell someone fake LSD and they have an awful trip they're never going to buy from you again and you've burned a profit stream. If you sell someone coke cut with meth they're probably going to come back anyways, because they're hooked on the drug.
2. The things you might adulterate or fake LSD with (ex. NBOMe) are also somewhat difficult and expensive to make, so it's not like one would really save much time or money. If you're trying to burn someone in an LSD sale, the simplest and most profitable thing to do would be to just sell empty blotter paper, rather than wasting research chemicals you could potentially sell to some psychonaut with the correct label.
With that said NBOMe and some other synthetics have been cropping up in the last 20-ish years. If someone at a party or festival is selling single tabs that's definitely the place where you might get burned with NBOMe, since by the time your trip ends the dealer will be long gone. In general it's always best to test everything you ingest, and dancesafe.org is definitely the place to get info on how to test stuff.
https://getyourdrugstested.com/
ahahaaha you people just found out about this?!>?!
https://www.youtube.com/@Drugslab