Mysterious drones have been spotted at airports across Europe (bbc.co.uk)

If we see a war between Russia and the EU, we're going to have to deal with them learning from Israel and using the same idea of decentralised drone hubs attacking military and civilian targets across the entire continent. We're woefully underprepared to deal with something like this. Western Europe still thinks that if a war breaks out, it'll be tanks and soldiers going into the Baltic states, and we'll crush them with our advanced arsenal. It'll be more like when Russia took eastern Ukraine. A hard push, then months of digging in as they proceed to genocide the Baltics, gaslight the West into thinking it'd be easier and safer to just hand over the Baltics without a big fight and wage asymmetric warfare across Europe and severely hamper any military response by hitting the logistic chains at every point.

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Not a bad overview of the situation! Worth it for some of the questions about what is actually efficient and not just technically effective. Especially at this scale.

> "The aggressor", he concludes, "will observe, adjust, repeat – until they get through".

Reminds me a lot of digital sec.

before ukraine it was aliens

I still haven’t seen any specifics on the type of drones spotted at those airports. Is the other side just sending random people with cheap FPV drones? Or are they flying Shaheds around airports? I could take my 6” FPV drone and go buzz the tower at a nearby international airport, if I wanted. It costs less than 500€ for the entire kit and with ELRS and high power analog VTx you can do it from kilometers away and run before they catch you. Obviously it’s illegal as fuck.

Is this like that time we closed Gatwick for 3 days because of a collective delusion?

Every news report I read about this stuff has at best /r/ufos level of uselessly vague photography.

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The way the german government reacts to this makes it pretty easy for any lone actor to do state level damage.

I dunno if calling them "mysterious" is really helpful in this case. Just shoot them down if they get close, that should be the response in a wartime scenario too. Plus, given it's in civilian areas, they can use the expensive laser defense systems to do that.

The fact that these drones are only appearing in NATO aligned countries makes it seem pretty obvious to me that it's one of two possibilities.

1) Russian sabre-rattling

2) NATO countries running "secret" drills in public in anticipation of 1)

The UFO community is of course running with a third option that doesn't warrant any seriousness.

One thing that is particularly annoying: the lack of communication from the governments/police about the status of the investigation, or lack thereof.

Side question: How likely are autonomous reconnaissance drones today?

I'd expect them to be impervious to traditional jamming.

I could imagine a pair of drones, a few km apart, communicating by laser line-of-sight, where the reconnaissance one acquires data, send it to the nearby drone, that one would use it to confirm data and do something else with it (aka, spotter and actor).

Have they been conclusively spotted? With evidence? Sorry I only skimmed the article. Until there is, I’m going to keep believing it’s some sort of mass delusion like UFO sightings. Not because I think some sort of drone attack is particularly unlikely, but because these sorts of mass delusions are evidently very common - like happened in New Jersey.

It is not Russia's aggression "against the west", it is your aggression against Russia, and in general against Russians, since the west organized the Kiev's coup at 2014 (renember the Odessa May 2014 pogrom at the Unions House against people opposing to "Maidan", for which none, or almost none, got punished, or the murders by ucranian services at Mariupol, of which most of the westerners did not hear at all). Ucrainian war is just the logical outcome, were it not for your built-in dishonesty and hypocrisy which make it seem as a spontaneous aggression against a peaceful neighbour.

(I am not saying this is the whole story. But the main part of it, yes.)

I am quite sure that these "mysterious drones" which the western services "cannot identify" is yet another "false flag" as you like to call them, to justify investing hindreds of billions (maybe also these stolen from Russia) into a future war against Russia which the west is feverishly preparing. Territory, natural resources, this is what it is about. Always is, always has been.