I'm so lucky that I'm at a place that I can see my direct manager actively protecting us from a lot of these things like random busywork and solutions for the hell of a solution. As a result we can get some really good work done and actually deliver on the large projects we're given in the roadmap on time.
I just hope Ramon can find somewhere that respects his talent and his time and allow him to do his best work without the stress. I really wish that for everyone (although, no perfect world exists)
Yeah even on HN not everyone got to the real issue. It is not so obvious unless you have done SRE or like me just have to do oncall and have to do some SRE for your services. The obvious take is "there is a bug at line X" and especially with it being Rust the tempting lol Rust code is buggy it was meant to be safe. But code will have logical bugs so you need to know how to deal with that uncertainty in deployments.
RE Linkedin - it's a good filter, see some BS post, add it to a list, then when you need a job and want to choose your boss, or when you want to hire someone, you have a filter :-). Maybe 3 strikes to allow for an honest mistake or something that looks like AI but turns out it wasn't.
I wasn't familiar with the PIP acronym so I asked $AI:
> A PIP (Performance Improvement Plan) is a formal document a company uses when they believe an employee isn’t meeting expectations. It’s framed as “support,” but depending on the environment, it can be anything from a genuine improvement tool to a pre-termination protocol.
Is there some legitimate thing people are doing on LinkedIn that the crap is getting in the way of? One can make a profile and (thought it’s terrible for this) search for jobs without ever scrolling the feed. If you don’t like it just don’t use it.
It feels like complaining that the strip bar has alcohol and nudity everywhere, why are you there?
I was also placed on a PIP and yeah man, corporate hell at these big companies is definitely a thing. They’ve drank all the kool aid about AI and the execs have been taking the $AI board stinks up the moon to push AI down your throats. Then they are using fear and lack of transparency on decisions to get people to compete while pretending to be positive-sum (note: it’s zero-sum) these PIP and performance ranking stack cultures are so toxic.
My LinkedIn feed has been unrelentingly depressing recently, more than anything. Every time I log in it’s former coworkers posting about how they have been jobless for a year+ or posts like “I was diagnosed with aggressive brain cancer, goodbye!”
IDK if the vapid LLM slop is worse than this pit of despair and misery, hard to say.
I only maintain a profile on LinkedIn because it is standard and expected. But I never open the website except when I get notification maybe on important message or to update significant part. I don't read posts or anything else. I even block the website on my AdGuard Home instance and added it to kagi seach blocked sites.
I don't see any reason why would I try to engage with people there. And that's even before LLMs, they just made it much worse.
I hadn't used linkedin for over a year, so I recently deleted it. It used to be useful as a kind of phone book/rolodex; but they pivoted somewhere, and I'm not sure why I hadn't deleted it sooner.
The author complains about duplication in social media. It's certainly not limited to LinkedIn.
I wonder if part of the problem is that people don't see each other's posts and don't quite realize how repetitive they're being when they write them? You can't expect the same amount of coherence that you get in a small discussion where people actually read each other's posts.
LinkedIn is hell. I had a redundancy about a year ago, and like the author tried using it to network and find another job. I swear half of the people on there are not copy/pasting from ChatGPT like the author speculates but are just straight up bots that use AI. Just use the traditional job bulletins like SEEK, you will have much more success.
The highest level of cringe you can feel is when you see people you know well in real life post on LinkedIn. The contrast between the way they speak in real life and on LinkedIn is often immense, you don't feel that level of contrast with random internet strangers.
Almost every comment on here is from the point of view of a candidate/applicant.
1. LinkedIn is an advertising pipeline, for employers, recruiters, and candidates
2. The main feed is helpful if you want to see people virtue signalling (recruiters claiming that they never ghost candidates)
3. The main feed is REALLY helpful to see what's happening on the other side of the fence (recruiters complaining about hiring managers ghosting/ripping them off)
4. The interactive part of the posts on the main feed is helpful for "correcting" poor assumptions (recruiters are often saying "Put X on your CV/Resume if you want to stand out" - which is good advice, except that candidates /don't/ put it on their resumes/CVs for a set of reasons that recruiters don't realise)
idk i like linkedin. every week i get emails about jobs they think i might be interested in and its pretty on point. nice to have a centralized place for job advertisements. before that, youd have to go on each website individually which was a pain.
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[ 3.2 ms ] story [ 84.1 ms ] threadThe negatives the author talks about, just sound like LinkedIn on a good day.
Personally I'm never on there outside of when I'm looking for a job and I'm honestly not reading anyone's posts...
I'm so lucky that I'm at a place that I can see my direct manager actively protecting us from a lot of these things like random busywork and solutions for the hell of a solution. As a result we can get some really good work done and actually deliver on the large projects we're given in the roadmap on time.
I just hope Ramon can find somewhere that respects his talent and his time and allow him to do his best work without the stress. I really wish that for everyone (although, no perfect world exists)
The highlights get reposted on
https://www.reddit.com/r/LinkedInLunatics/
RE Linkedin - it's a good filter, see some BS post, add it to a list, then when you need a job and want to choose your boss, or when you want to hire someone, you have a filter :-). Maybe 3 strikes to allow for an honest mistake or something that looks like AI but turns out it wasn't.
> A PIP (Performance Improvement Plan) is a formal document a company uses when they believe an employee isn’t meeting expectations. It’s framed as “support,” but depending on the environment, it can be anything from a genuine improvement tool to a pre-termination protocol.
It feels like complaining that the strip bar has alcohol and nudity everywhere, why are you there?
IDK if the vapid LLM slop is worse than this pit of despair and misery, hard to say.
I don't see any reason why would I try to engage with people there. And that's even before LLMs, they just made it much worse.
I have no idea.
I wonder if part of the problem is that people don't see each other's posts and don't quite realize how repetitive they're being when they write them? You can't expect the same amount of coherence that you get in a small discussion where people actually read each other's posts.
Alternative theory: perhaps they don't care?
It’s making money to spend quality time with loved ones and pay the bills. For some people that’s enough (no judgement).
Facebook/Insta: I'm cool!
Twitter/X: I'm smart!
LinkedIn: I'm successful!
Tik Tok: (I have no idea)
As long as you know this, it all makes more sense.
1. LinkedIn is an advertising pipeline, for employers, recruiters, and candidates
2. The main feed is helpful if you want to see people virtue signalling (recruiters claiming that they never ghost candidates)
3. The main feed is REALLY helpful to see what's happening on the other side of the fence (recruiters complaining about hiring managers ghosting/ripping them off)
4. The interactive part of the posts on the main feed is helpful for "correcting" poor assumptions (recruiters are often saying "Put X on your CV/Resume if you want to stand out" - which is good advice, except that candidates /don't/ put it on their resumes/CVs for a set of reasons that recruiters don't realise)