As someone who works in this space. A large org like Google often separates the feature work and counter abuse teams. The org structure leads to unintended feature consequences. It sucks when your trying to provide value to people and it's taken advantage of by bad actors.
I think the larger question is why are we all (or most of us?) still using Gmail? Why can't an average person host their own email server with open source software with straightforward security upgrades instead of trusting BigCo or the latest SmallCo?
Is there a self hosted solution that will allow me to back up all my Gmail emails including attachments? Something like paperless but for my old emails.
The constant pestering by Google to buy storage space has started pushing me to deleting everything more then a few years old as a stepping stone to leaving Gmail completely.
I'm an average person who uses fastmail with a custom domain with a separate registrar. Fastmail does all the right DKIM, DMARC, etc. magic.
And still my mail sometimes goes to spam essentially because it's not "@gmail.com" This is a really real problem that will never go away because everyone in a position to do something about it being so monopolistic cannot understand it.
> Ten years old being younger than the account had actually existed for, it is 12 years old apparently, might, you would have hoped, set off some Google alarm bells in these days of advanced AI protections, but no.
What's your issue with this sentence specifically?
It looks perfectly fine and understandable to me. I guess you don't like the parenthetical sentence between commas. Imagine it is behind em-dash and everything should be fine.
You know it makes sense, so get that Google passkey set up now.
Unfortunately you'll be guided to storing those in your Google account too, so your everyday user will still get locked out, in some ways it's worse because a lot of sites will only accept a "recovery key", email confirmation is no longer enough (not that it matters if your GMail is also locked out)
People should be setting up Recovery Contacts so that they have a way of getting back into their Google account even if they lose all credentials (passwords and/or passkeys) and all their devices.
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[ 4.2 ms ] story [ 38.1 ms ] threadThe constant pestering by Google to buy storage space has started pushing me to deleting everything more then a few years old as a stepping stone to leaving Gmail completely.
And still my mail sometimes goes to spam essentially because it's not "@gmail.com" This is a really real problem that will never go away because everyone in a position to do something about it being so monopolistic cannot understand it.
Good god what happened to editors?
It looks perfectly fine and understandable to me. I guess you don't like the parenthetical sentence between commas. Imagine it is behind em-dash and everything should be fine.
Unfortunately you'll be guided to storing those in your Google account too, so your everyday user will still get locked out, in some ways it's worse because a lot of sites will only accept a "recovery key", email confirmation is no longer enough (not that it matters if your GMail is also locked out)
https://blog.google/technology/safety-security/recovery-cont...
I hope Google starts to push all users to setup Recovery Contacts. It would greatly reduce the likelihood of lockouts, whether using passkeys or not.
Why not register your own domain and use an email on that domain?
Nowadays, registering a domain is almost free, and you can fully customize your email addresses.