You can subscribe to our GeForce NOW service to rent a top of the line card through our cloud service for the low low price of 11€$£ or 22€$£ a month with *almost no restrictions.
Bought a slightly overpriced, even by its own standards, 5090 in May, hope that it lasts me through the next five years of madness, and that the madness will have some kind of a temporary respite (or I luck out on a higher paying job, or figure out how to invest properly - it seems like a lottery these days).
My only small regret is that I decided to build an SFF PC, otherwise I would've gone for 128 GB of RAM instead of just 64. Oh well, ̶6̶4̶0̶ ̶K̶B̶ 64 GB should be enough for most purposes.
IMO, sadly: the DIY PC world is on life support and will likely be something that isn't even really possible to do, for top-of-the-line performance, by 2028.
I don't necessarily think that everything is going doomer "subscription based cloud streaming"; the economics of these services never made sense, especially for gaming, and there's little reason to believe that the same incentives that led to Nvidia, Crucial, etc wanting out of the consumer hardware business wouldn't also impact that business.
Instead, the future is tightly integrated single-board computers (e.g. Framework Desktop, the new HP keyboard, Mac Mini, RPi, etc). They're easier for consumers to buy. Integrated memory, GPU, and cooling means we can drive higher performance. All of the components getting sourced by one supplier means the whole "X is leaving the consumer market" point is moot, and allows better bulk deals to be negotiated. They're smaller. It allows one company (e.g. Framework) to capture more margin than sharing with ten GPU or memory middle-men who just slap a sports car-looking cooler on whatever they bought from Micron and saying they're a real business.
My lingering hope is that we do see some company succeed who can direct-sell these high-end SBCs to consumers, so if you want to go the route of a custom case and such, you still can. And that we don't lose modular storage. But I've lost all hope that DIY PCs will survive this decade; to be frank, they haven't made economic sense for a while.
It's hard for me to believe they'll put 100% of their eggs into the AI basket, even if it's insanely more profitable than consumer GPUs at the moment.
AI is simultaneously a bubble and here to stay (a bit like the "Web 1.0" bubble IMO)
Also, importantly, consumer GPUs are still an important on-ramp for developers getting into nVidia's ecosystem via CUDA. Software is their real moat.
There are other ways to provide that on-ramp, and nVidia would rather rent you the hardware than sell it to you anyway, but.... I dunno. Part of me says the rumors are true, part of me says the rumors are not true...
I don’t subscribe to all of this doom and gloom. I would like to consider myself a gamer and to be frank I used the same computer setup for since 2018 until I recently upgraded it in the past few months. Even with increased costs we are seeing the dollar spent per hour of entertainment is ridiculously cost effective.
It will be interesting to see what the long term impact of this will be, the headline misses the biggest part that they (if the phrasing they use is correct) should be producing more of the lower speced (and cheaper) 5060 8GB model.
So while the news is not great, I think it is far from any doom and gloom if we are in fact going to be getting more 5060 cards.
As it is the value of the crazy higher speced cards was questionable with most developers targeting console specs anyways. But it does bring to question how this might impact the next generation of consoles and if those will be scaled back.
We will likely be seeing some stagnation of capability for a couple years. Maybe once the bubble pops all the work that went into AI chips can come back to gaming chips and we can have a big leap in capability.
I could see Nvidia completely stepping out of the low to mid range Desktop GPU space. The margins have to be peanuts compared to their other business lines.
Very curious about the second order effects of the hundreds of billions poured into LLMs. Perhaps even if LLMs do not pan out, we will have a massive increase in green energy production, grid enhancements and a leap in capacity for general-purpose computing over the next few years? Or maybe that is my naive side talking...
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[ 2.5 ms ] story [ 38.8 ms ] threadHappy I just bought my 5080 before Christmas. Theyre all on borrowed time.
You can subscribe to our GeForce NOW service to rent a top of the line card through our cloud service for the low low price of 11€$£ or 22€$£ a month with *almost no restrictions.
*Except for all the restrictions.
Ram is 4-5x the price of a year ago.
Is AI going to kill the consumer computer industry?
My only small regret is that I decided to build an SFF PC, otherwise I would've gone for 128 GB of RAM instead of just 64. Oh well, ̶6̶4̶0̶ ̶K̶B̶ 64 GB should be enough for most purposes.
I don't necessarily think that everything is going doomer "subscription based cloud streaming"; the economics of these services never made sense, especially for gaming, and there's little reason to believe that the same incentives that led to Nvidia, Crucial, etc wanting out of the consumer hardware business wouldn't also impact that business.
Instead, the future is tightly integrated single-board computers (e.g. Framework Desktop, the new HP keyboard, Mac Mini, RPi, etc). They're easier for consumers to buy. Integrated memory, GPU, and cooling means we can drive higher performance. All of the components getting sourced by one supplier means the whole "X is leaving the consumer market" point is moot, and allows better bulk deals to be negotiated. They're smaller. It allows one company (e.g. Framework) to capture more margin than sharing with ten GPU or memory middle-men who just slap a sports car-looking cooler on whatever they bought from Micron and saying they're a real business.
My lingering hope is that we do see some company succeed who can direct-sell these high-end SBCs to consumers, so if you want to go the route of a custom case and such, you still can. And that we don't lose modular storage. But I've lost all hope that DIY PCs will survive this decade; to be frank, they haven't made economic sense for a while.
AI is simultaneously a bubble and here to stay (a bit like the "Web 1.0" bubble IMO)
Also, importantly, consumer GPUs are still an important on-ramp for developers getting into nVidia's ecosystem via CUDA. Software is their real moat.
There are other ways to provide that on-ramp, and nVidia would rather rent you the hardware than sell it to you anyway, but.... I dunno. Part of me says the rumors are true, part of me says the rumors are not true...
So while the news is not great, I think it is far from any doom and gloom if we are in fact going to be getting more 5060 cards.
As it is the value of the crazy higher speced cards was questionable with most developers targeting console specs anyways. But it does bring to question how this might impact the next generation of consoles and if those will be scaled back.
We will likely be seeing some stagnation of capability for a couple years. Maybe once the bubble pops all the work that went into AI chips can come back to gaming chips and we can have a big leap in capability.
Maybe another way to look at it is: with hundreds of billions being tossed around, could there possibly not be second-order effects?
We'll see....
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-to-bring-back-geforce-rtx-3060-q...