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Yuck, this is going to really harm scientific research.

There is already a problem with papers falsifying data/samples/etc, LLMs being able to put out plausible papers is just going to make it worse.

On the bright side, maybe this will get the scientific community and science journalists to finally take reproducibility more seriously. I'd love to see future reporting that instead of saying "Research finds amazing chemical x which does y" you see "Researcher reproduces amazing results for chemical x which does y. First discovered by z".

For ML/AI/Comp sci articles, providing reproducible code is a great option. Basically, PoC or GTFO.
It will better expose the behaviour of false scientists.
> I'd love to see future reporting that instead of saying "Research finds amazing chemical x which does y" you see "Researcher reproduces amazing results for chemical x which does y. First discovered by z".

Most people (that I talk to, at least) in science agree that there's a reproducibility crisis. The challenge is there really isn't a good way to incentivize that work.

Fundamentally (unless you're independent wealthy and funding your own work), you have to measure productivity somehow, whether you're at a university, government lab, or the private sector. That turns out to be very hard to do.

If you measure raw number of papers (more common in developing countries and low-tier universities), you incentivize a flood of junk. Some of it is good, but there is such a tidal wave of shit that most people write off your work as a heuristic based on the other people in your cohort.

So, instead it's more common to try to incorporate how "good" a paper is, to reward people with a high quantity of "good" papers. That's quantifying something subjective though, so you might try to use something like citation count as a proxy: if a work is impactful, usually it gets cited a lot. Eventually you may arrive at something like the H-index, which is defined as "The highest number H you can pick, where H is the number of papers you have written with H citations." Now, the trouble with this method is people won't want to "waste" their time on incremental work.

And that's the struggle here; even if we funded and rewarded people for reproducing results, they will always be bumping up the citation count of the original discoverer. But it's worse than that, because literally nobody is going to cite your work. In 10 years, they just see the original paper, a few citing works reproducing it, and to save time they'll just cite the original paper only.

There's clearly a problem with how we incentivize scientific work. And clearly we want to be in a world where people test reproducibility. However, it's very very hard to get there when one's prestige and livelihood is directly tied to discovery rather than reproducibility.

I think, at least I hope, that a part of the LLM value will be to create their retirement for specific needs. Instead of asking it to solve any problem, restrict the space to a tool that can help you then reach your goal faster without the statistical nature of LLMs.
In my mental model, the fundamental problem of reproducibility is that scientists have very hard time to find a penny to fund such research. No one wants to grant “hey I need $1m and 2 years to validate the paper from last year which looks suspicious”.

Until we can change how we fund science on the fundamental level; how we assign grants — it will be indeed very hard problem to deal with.

Maybe it will also change the whole publication as evaluation of science.
> LLMs being able to put out plausible papers is just going to make it worse

If correct form (LaTeX two-column formatting, quoting the right papers and authors of the year etc.) has been allowing otherwise reject-worthy papers to slip through peer review, academia arguably has bigger problems than LLMs.

I'd need to see the same scrutiny applied to pre-AI papers. If a field has a poor replication rate, meaning there's a good chance that a given published paper is just so much junk science, is that better or worse than letting AI hallucinate the data in the first place?
If there is one thing which scientific reports must require is not using AI to produce the documentation. They can be of the data but not of the source or anything else. AI is a tool, not a replacement for actual work.
On the bright side, an LLM can really help set up a reproduction environment.

Perhaps repro should become the basis of peer review?

Reading the article, this is about CITATIONS which are trivially verifiable.

This is just article publishers not doing the most basic verification failing to notice that the citations in the article don't exist.

What this should trigger is a black mark for all of the authors and their institutions, both of which should receive significant reputational repercussions for publishing fake information. If they fake the easiest to verify information (does the cited work exist) what else are they faking?

  > to finally take reproducibility more seriously
I've long argued for this, as reproduction is the cornerstone of science. There's a lot of potential ways to do this but one that I like is linking to the original work. Suppose you're looking at the OpenReview page and they have a link for "reproduction efforts" and with at minimum an annotation for confirmation or failure.

This is incredibly helpful to the community as a whole. Reproduction failures can be incredibly helpful even when the original work has no fraud. In those cases a reprising failure reveals important information about the necessary conditions that the original work relies on.

But honestly, we'll never get this until we drop the entire notion of "novel" or "impact" and "publish or perish". Novel is in the eye of the reviewer and the lower the reviewer's expertise the less novel a work seems (nothing is novel as a high enough level). Impact can almost never be determined a priori, and when it can you already have people chasing those directions because why the fuck would they not? But publish or perish is the biggest sin. It's one of those ideas that looks nice on paper, like you are meaningfully determining who is working hard and who is hardly working. But the truth is that you can't tell without being in the weeds. The real result is that this stifles creativity, novelty, and impact as it forces researchers to chase lower hanging fruit. Things you're certain will work and can get published. It creates a negative feedback loop as we compete: "X publishes 5 papers a year, why can't you?" I've heard these words even when X has far fewer citations (each of my work had "more impact").

Frankly, I believe fraud would dramatically reduce were researchers not risking job security. The fraud is incentivized by the cutthroat system where you're constantly trying to defend your job, your work, and your grants. They'll always be some fraud but (with a few exceptions) researchers aren't rockstar millionaires. It takes a lot of work to get to point where fraud even works, so there's a natural filter.

I have the same advice as Mervin Kelly, former director of Bell Labs:

  How do you manage genius?
  You don't
I heard that most papers in a given field are already not adding any value. (Maybe it depends on the field though.)

There seems to be a rule in every field that "99% of everything is crap." I guess AI adds a few more nines to the end of that.

The gems are lost in a sea of slop.

So I see useless output (e.g. crap on the app store) as having negative value, because it takes up time and space and energy that could have been spent on something good.

My point with all this is that it's not a new problem. It's always been about curation. But curation doesn't scale. It already didn't. I don't know what the answer to that looks like.

Yeah, spot on. If all we do is add more plausible sounding text on top of already fragile review and incentive structures, that really could make things worse rather than better

Your second point is the important one. AI may be the thing that finally forces the community to take reproducibility, attribution, and verification seriously. That’s very much the motivation behind projects like Liberata, which try to shift publishing away from novelty first narratives and toward explicit credit for replication, verification, and followthrough. If that cultural shift happens, this moment might end up being a painful but necessary correction.

It would be great if those scientists who use AI without disclosing it get fucked for life.
> It would be great if those scientists who use AI without disclosing it get fucked for life.

There need to be dis-incentives for sloppy work. There is a tension between quality and quantity in almost every product. Unfortunately academia has become a numbers-game with paper-mills.

Instead of publishing their papers in the prestigious zines - which is what they're after - we will publish them in "AI Slop Weekly" with name and picture. Up the submission risk a bit.
If these are so easy to identify, why not just incorporate some kind of screening into the early stages of peer review?
Wow! They're literally submitting references to papers by Firstname Lastname, John Doe and Jane Smith and nobody is noticing or punishing them.
They might (I hope) still be punished after discovery.
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To be honest, this one could just as well be a sloppy bibliography.
Which is worse:

a) p-hacking and suppressing null results

b) hallucinations

c) falsifying data

Would be cool to see an analysis of this

I'm doing some research, and this is something I'm unsure of. I see that "suppressing null results" is a bad thing, and I sort of agree, but for me personally, a lot of the null results are just the result of my own incompetence and don't contain any novel insights.
Is there a comparison to rate of reference errors in other forums?
It is very concerning that these hallucinations passed through peer review. It's not like peer review is a fool-proof method or anything, but the fact that reviewers did not check all references and noticed clearly bogus ones is alarming and could be a sign that the article authors weren't the only ones using LLMs in the process...
Is it common for peer reviewers to check references? Somehow I thought they mostly focused on whether the experiment looked reasonable and the conclusions followed.
Could you run a similar analysis for pre-2020 papers? It'd be interesting to know how prevalent making up sources was before LLMs.
Also, it'd be interesting how many pre-2020 papers their "AI detector" marks as AI-generated. I distrust LLMs somewhat, but I distrust AI detectors even more.
Yeah, it’s kind of meaningless to attribute this to AI without measuring the base rate.

It’s for sure plausible that it’s increasing, but I’m certain this kind of thing happened with humans too.

at the end of the article they made a clear distinction between flawed and hallucinated cititations. I feels its hard to argue that through a mistake a hallucinated citation emerge:

> Real Citation Yann LeCun, Yoshua Bengio, and Geoffrey Hinton. Deep learning. nature, 521:436-444, 2015.

Flawed Citation

Y. LeCun, Y. Bengio, and Geoff Hinton. Deep leaning. nature, 521(7553):436-444, 2015.

Hallucinated Citation

Samuel LeCun Jackson. Deep learning. Science & Nature: 23-45, 2021.

This suggests that nobody was screening this papers in the first place—so is it actually significant that people are using LLMs in a setting without meaningful oversight?

These clearly aren't being peer-reviewed, so there's no natural check on LLM usage (which is different than what we see in work published in journals).

As one who reviews 20+ papers per year, we don't have time to verify each reference.

We verify: is the stuff correct, and is it worthy of publication (in the given venue) given that it is correct.

There is still some trust in the authors to not submit made-up-stuff, albeit it is diminishing.

Academic venues don't have enough reviewers. This problem isn't new, and as publication volumes increase, it's getting sharply worse.

Consider the unit economics. Suppose NeurIPS gets 20,000 papers in one year. Suppose each author should expect three good reviews, so area chairs assign five reviewers per paper. In total, 100,000 reviews need to be written. It's a lot of work, even before factoring emergency reviewers in.

NeurIPS is one venue alongside CVPR, [IE]CCV, COLM, ICML, EMNLP, and so on. Not all of these conferences are as large as NeurIPS, but the field is smaller than you'd expect. I'd guess there are 300k-1m people in the world who are qualified to review AI papers.

When I was reviewing such papers, I didn't bother checking that 30+ citations were correctly indexed. I focused on the article itself, and maybe 1 or 2 citations that are important. That's it. For most citations, they are next to an argument that I know is correct, so why would I bother checking. What else do you expect? My job was to figure out if the article ideas are novel and interesting, not if they got all their citations right.
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A lot of research in AI/ML seems to me to be "fake it and never make it". Literally it's all about optics, posturing, connections, publicity. Lots of bullshit and little substance. This was true before AI slop, too. But the fact that AI slop can make it pass the review really showcases how much a paper's acceptance hinges on things, other than the substance and results of the paper.

I even know PIs who got fame and funding based on some research direction that supposedly is going to be revolutionary. Except all they had were preliminary results that from one angle, if you squint, you can envision some good result. But then the result never comes. That's why I say, "fake it, and never make it".

I was getting completely AI-generated reviews for a WACV publication back in 2024. The area chairs are so overworked that authors don't have much recourse, which sucks but is also really hard to handle unless more volunteers step up to the bat to help organize the conference.

(If you're qualified to review papers, please email the program chair of your favorite conference and let them know -- they really need the help!)

As for my review, the review form has a textbox for a summary, a textbox for strengths, a textbox for weaknesses, and a textbox for overall thoughts. The review I received included one complete set of summary/strengths/weaknesses/closing thoughts in the summary text box, another distinct set of summary/strengths/weaknesses/closing thoughts in the strengths, another complete and distinct review in the weaknesses, and a fourth complete review in the closing thoughts. Each of these four reviews were slightly different and contradicted each other.

The reviewer put my paper down as a weak reject, but also said "the pros greatly outweigh the cons."

They listed "innovative use of synthetic data" as a strength, and "reliance on synthetic data" as a weakness.

No ETH Zurich, let's go
NeurIPS leadership doesn’t think hallucinated references are necessarily disqualifying; see the full article from Fortune for a statement from them: https://archive.ph/yizHN

> When reached for comment, the NeurIPS board shared the following statement: “The usage of LLMs in papers at AI conferences is rapidly evolving, and NeurIPS is actively monitoring developments. In previous years, we piloted policies regarding the use of LLMs, and in 2025, reviewers were instructed to flag hallucinations. Regarding the findings of this specific work, we emphasize that significantly more effort is required to determine the implications. Even if 1.1% of the papers have one or more incorrect references due to the use of LLMs, the content of the papers themselves are not necessarily invalidated. For example, authors may have given an LLM a partial description of a citation and asked the LLM to produce bibtex (a formatted reference). As always, NeurIPS is committed to evolving the review and authorship process to best ensure scientific rigor and to identify ways that LLMs can be used to enhance author and reviewer capabilities.”

AI might just extinguish the entire paradigm of publish or perish. The sheer volume of papers makes it nearly impossible to properly decide which papers have merit, which are non-replicate and suspect, and which are just a desperate rush to publish. The entire practice needs to end.
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This is awful but hardly surprising. Someone mentioned reproducible code with the papers - but there is a high likelihood of the code being partially or fully AI generated as well. I.e. AI generated hypothesis -> AI produces code to implement and execute the hypothesis -> AI generates paper based on the hypothesis and the code.

Also: there were 15 000 submissions that were rejected at NeurIPS; it would be very interesting to see what % of those rejected were partially or fully AI generated/hallucinated. Are the ratios comperable?

This is nice and all, but what repercussion does GPTZero get when their bullshit AI detection hallucinates a student using AI? And when that student receives academic discipline because of it?

Many such cases of this. More than 100!

They claim to have custom detection for GPT-5, Gemini, and Claude. They're making that up!

This is mostly an ad for their product. But I bet you can get pretty good results with a Claude Code agent using a couple simple skills.

Should be extremely easy for AI to successfully detect hallucinated references as they are semi-structured data with an easily verifiable ground truth.

I don't understand: why aren't there automated tools to verify citations' existence? The data for a citation has a structured styling (APA, MLA, Chicago) and paper metadata is available via e.g. a web search, even if the paper contents are not

I guess GPTZero has such a tool. I'm confused why it isn't used more widely by paper authors and reviewers

No surprises. Machine learning has, at least since 2012, been the go-to field for scammers and grifters. Machine learning, and technology in general, is basically a few real ideas, a small number of honest hard workers, and then millions of fad chasers and scammers.
It would be ironic if the very detection of hallucinations contained hallucinations of its own.