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Exactly. Shameful explanation.
Yawn the 90/10 excuse again and 'Shipping it everywhere' is a blatant lie there is still no Linux release. Looks like you are talking about Claude Code as Claude. Claude would be the Desktop app...
Or: Why can't I log in to Claude on my laptop? It opens a browser with an indefinite spinner, and when I click "Login" on the website, it forwards me to register instead. Not really selling it as the future of coding if their fundamentals are this screwed up!
That, and the IntellIJ plugin of Claude is basically the Claude CLI running in a terminal. Also pretty underwhelming.
Free as in puppy

Edit: The title of the post originally started with "If code is free,"

Can we talk about how much copilot sucks in vscode? I have to use for work, buggy as hell for the premier product of a trillion dollar company.
Call them out, call them out. Why isn't Claude a native Windows x64 app if code is free?
Electron isn't that bad. Apps like VSCode and Obsidian are among the highest quality and most performant apps I have installed. The Claude app's problem is not electron; its that it just sucks, bad. Stop blaming problems on nativeness.
I don't think anyone on the AI hype train cares about performance, memory usage, or code quality (measured by bugs). Customers will, though.
Would be a much better UX if it had multi-window support and a separate settings window.
Why stop there!

We should refuse to accept coding agents until they have fully replaced chromium. By that point, the world will see that our reticence was wisdom.

Likewise OpenAIs browser is still only available on macOS, four months after launch, despite being built on a mature browser engine which already runs on everything under the sun. Seems like low-hanging fruit, and yet...
The Claude app is one giant garbanzo bean. I uninstalled it and pinned the web app to my dock instead.
> For now, Electron still makes sense

A few years ago maybe. Tauri makes better sense for this use case today - like Electron but with system webviews, so at least doesn't bloat your system with extra copies of Chrome. And strongly encourages Rust for the application core over JS/Node.

Code isn’t free when you have to review and QA it
Because Anthropic and the rest of them are lying to you about the sophistication of these tools.

The fact that claude code is a still buggy mess is a testament to the quality of the dream they're trying to sell.

Because when a service is running at a loss the investors want their money to be spent efficiently.
Not all code qualities are free. Good quality code, still expensive.
Because code isn't free.

I can see it in my team. We've all been using Claude a lot for the last 6 months. It's hard to measure the impact, but I can tell our systems are as buggy as ever. AI isn't a silver bullet.

But nobody says code is free(?). Certainly not Claude, that experimental compiler costs $20K to build. That openclaw author admitted in Lex Fridman talk that he spends $10k's on tokens each month.
If author tried native macOS development with agent for an hour, they wouldn’t know where to begin explaining how different is agentic web development from native. It was better year ago, you could actually get to build a native app. Now all models over-think everything, they do things they like and igniter hard constraints. They picked all that in training. All these behaviours, hiding mistakes, shameful silence, going “woke” and doing what they think should be done despite your wishes. All this is meliorated in web development, but for native it made it a lot worse. And visual testing, compare in-browser easy automated ride with retest-it-yourself for 50th time.
I don't know why anyone uses Electron anymore, Tauri produces much smaller binaries and is amazing.