Tech Tangents is one of the best retro channels on youtube but by retro I dont mean glorified nostalgia either. Shelby puts a lot of work into his videos and likes to showcase what awesome engineering went into some of the early tech that was practically magic. Love the channel and glad to see it on HN.
So CAV (constant angular velocity) is an encoding format for laser disks. When something is written with CAV, it is basically analogue data and therefore repeating patterns can be recognized on the disk.
The live stream of this had more interesting things as well, such as looking at the ink on mimeographs compared to inkjet printing. Long and rambly as live streams tend to be, but it is there if anyone cares.
Here's a screen capture of the end credits visible on the disc the videos worth it but I do think sometimes you need to start with the money shot
https://ibb.co/v4KK88fF
Actually amazing being able to read the text like that, and on two different types of discs. Great video, was much better than I was expecting it to be from the title!
Fun fact about laser discs. They are analogue not digital. CD’s store digital information with the presence or absence of pits. Fairly ancient but still fundamentally feels like a very old version of a thumb drive.
Laser discs are not digital. They encode the analogue video signal’s value as the length of the pit. It is digitized in the time domain - sampled at some frequency, but the “vertical” signal value is stored entirely analogue. In terms of encoding it’s more similar to a VHS tape than a CD. Kinda crazy.
I'm not that familiar with CED but the fact that we can see the images with microscopes is because these are analog discs? And that was because computing power back then was non-existent so they didn't use any kind of compression?
Interesting to see how optical technology has evolved. In lighting design we also deal a lot with how light interacts with surfaces, lenses and reflectors.
Even small changes in optics can drastically change how light spreads or how uniform illumination appears in a space.
As I understand it, this only works with still images that scroll vertically.
Each revolution is one frame, so if you compare the data paths next to each other, they don't make up an image but the same single line of several consecutive frames.
Scrolling a still image makes the same line on the screen cover a different part of the image each frame, so you can sort of make out what the original image looked like.
The end credits should show up as a single tall image, since the only limit to the height is the radius of the disc.
Just an aside - I love that he's using The Mind's Eye (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0167285/), which is a video that really captured my imagination when I was young (along with Beyond the Mind's Eye) and changed the course of my life as it got me into 3D animation at a young age.
1000 years from now, someone will discover these discs and wonder why we wrote text so small and so many times across the disk. They’ll say the rainbow is for artistic effect and the repetition for religious reasons.
Some people will argue that it is for primitive digital technology and be called crazy people. Nobody will be allowed to study it except for those who go to the right schools or have the right connections.
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[ 2.9 ms ] story [ 40.5 ms ] threadhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zIsCswtkozI (mimeograph around 3:36:00 mark)
Without you showing them, they might never see this kind of stuff.
Laser discs are not digital. They encode the analogue video signal’s value as the length of the pit. It is digitized in the time domain - sampled at some frequency, but the “vertical” signal value is stored entirely analogue. In terms of encoding it’s more similar to a VHS tape than a CD. Kinda crazy.
Even small changes in optics can drastically change how light spreads or how uniform illumination appears in a space.
Each revolution is one frame, so if you compare the data paths next to each other, they don't make up an image but the same single line of several consecutive frames.
Scrolling a still image makes the same line on the screen cover a different part of the image each frame, so you can sort of make out what the original image looked like.
The end credits should show up as a single tall image, since the only limit to the height is the radius of the disc.
The title is a bit misleading. LaserDiscs are digital but CEDs are analog.
Very different technologies.
Some people will argue that it is for primitive digital technology and be called crazy people. Nobody will be allowed to study it except for those who go to the right schools or have the right connections.